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Thanks! <- m-c has disconnected -> mgt has joined lesblogs 13:56 <- patrickt has left lesblogs 13:57 -> patrickt has joined lesblogs 13:58 -> mcabiling has joined lesblogs 14:00 -> jemstone has joined lesblogs 14:01 -> yoco has joined lesblogs 14:02 -> PiAir has joined lesblogs -> jalonso has joined lesblogs jibot jalonso is Julio Alonso and founder of Weblogs SL, www.weblogssl.com 14:03 rvr re 14:04 -> m-c has joined lesblogs <- PiAir has left lesblogs 14:05 -> dotBen has joined lesblogs JaanusSkype everyone is so full that there's no backchannel any more mcabiling burp 14:06 -> Les has joined lesblogs -> mickaelung has joined lesblogs mickaelung test -> maartens has joined lesblogs -> neXter^work has joined lesblogs 14:07 AndreasHaugstrup you're all full of corporate sponsored filling, huh? 14:08 <- ludoo has left lesblogs -> cfd has joined lesblogs -> olivert has joined lesblogs Disconnected from chat 14:10 Joining chat room... Started talking in lesblogs on esmaspäev 05.12.2005 14:10:37 Room topic is: Official backchannel || tag: lesblogs <- AndreasHaugstrup has disconnected (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14:11 <- franck has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -> PiAir has joined lesblogs -> AndreasHaugstrup has joined lesblogs <- neXter^work has disconnected ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]") -> ant0ine has joined lesblogs <- AndreasHaugstrup has left lesblogs -> Yme has joined lesblogs -> AndreasHaugstrup has joined lesblogs 14:12 -> franck_ has joined lesblogs franck_ changes nick to franck -> pforret has joined lesblogs -> Salim has joined lesblogs -> alexdecarvalho has joined lesblogs -> marc-o has joined lesblogs -> Carlytoss has joined lesblogs 14:13 alexdecarvalho changes nick to adecarvalho franck changes nick to SkullyFM dotBen BAD INFORMATIONS - GRRR! Carlytoss changes nick to Charles 14:14 -> patrickt_ has joined lesblogs Charles in english please -> photomatt_paris has joined lesblogs -> jemstone_ has joined lesblogs 14:15 -> Antho has joined lesblogs -> IRCMonkey_ has joined lesblogs <- IRCMonkey_ has disconnected (Client Quit) Antho hiya Charles ANINA is leaving -> pierre__ has joined lesblogs RMacK is it this one? http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/ 14:16 RMacK or this one? http://influenzah5n1.myblogsite.com/blog rvr avianflu 14:17 marc-o ERROR: influenzah5n1.myblogsite.com is temporarily unavailable or does not exist. Please check the address and try again. 14:18 rvr http://avianflu.typepad.com/ 14:19 jemstone_ BBC jemstone_ BBC? Crosswick "Jiminy may be small, but he's far from your average cricket. He can turn an umbrella into a parachute and looks great in a top hat and spats, and he carries a mean tune, as well as a nearly inexhaustible supply of home-brewed common sense. It's no wonder he is chosen by the Blue Fairy to be Pinocchio's "official" conscience" 14:20 RMacK www.globalvoicesonline.org 14:21 mickaelung changes nick to problog jemstone_ http://www.kenyanpundit.com/ 14:22 -> Crosswick_ has joined lesblogs ebow where's loic? 14:23 -> CaptSolo has joined lesblogs 14:24 stevegarfield Hi Rebecca, snow expected tonight and it is freezing in Boston jemstone_ MacKinnon: Priorities of US network news:http://www.jamco.or.jp/2004_symposium2/en/03/index.html 14:25 Jaanus2 whats wrong with lunch and dinner blogs.. no one likes them 14:26 mcabiling http://chocolateandzucchini.com/ mcabiling yummy 14:27 Les kevin anderson please go to the REGISTER DESK 14:28 RMacK hello steve!! RMacK thanks jemstone JaanusSkype is n=jaanus@195.68.195.29 (Jaanus Kase) JaanusSkype is in the following rooms: lesblogs JaanusSkype is using the server irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/) <- mgt has disconnected (Remote closed the connection) rvr is n=rvr@66.111.34.80 (Victor R. Ruiz) rvr is in the following rooms: @lesblogs rvr is using the server irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/) 14:29 -> mgt has joined lesblogs 14:30 -> ^Jaz^ has joined lesblogs <- mgt has disconnected (Client Quit) -> sztahanov has joined lesblogs 14:31 Disconnected from chat 14:32 Joining chat room... Started talking in lesblogs on esmaspäev 05.12.2005 14:32:27 Room topic is: Official backchannel || tag: lesblogs problog yes around <- RMacK has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <- jemstone_ has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) rvr Hmm 14:33 <- JaanusSkype has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Jaanus2 metablogging! blogging about blogging on blogging. yes. 14:34 dltq sometaithurts Jaanus2 changes nick to JaanusSkype JaanusSkype changes nick to Jaanus2 -> RMacK has joined lesblogs Jaanus2 changes nick to JaanusSkype <- dotBen has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:35 RMacK jaanus2 if you like food blogs try: http://noodlepie.typepad.com/ <- Salim has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) -> jemstone has joined lesblogs <- m-c has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) -> CharlesN has joined lesblogs 14:36 <- Yme has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <- olivert has disconnected <- SkullyFM has disconnected (Success) 14:37 <- adecarvalho has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <- ^Jaz^ has left lesblogs -> Antho has joined lesblogs 14:38 problog where is Chirac? CharlesN http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=4778 <- ant0ine has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:41 Disconnected from chat 14:48 Joining chat room... Started talking in lesblogs on esmaspäev 05.12.2005 14:48:43 Room topic is: Official backchannel || tag: lesblogs -> photomatt_paris has joined lesblogs -> Lanfeust21 has joined lesblogs -> _neezee has joined lesblogs jibot _neezee is Nicole Simon from usefulsounds.com and crueltobeking.org and as nice as jeannie. 14:49 -> jstuker has joined lesblogs _neezee hrmpf. -> marc-o has joined lesblogs michel_v ?def CharlesN jibot Nobody has defined CharlesN yet CharlesN Charles Nouyrit rvr Remember the fake soldier photo that was actually a toy Lanfeust21 Gilles Klein has an opinion about AgoraVox who's a different point of view to define agoravox Lanfeust21 http://gklein.blog.lemonde.fr/gklein/2005/08/journalistes_et.html Lanfeust21 it's in french michel_v oh, ok. I was thinking of another Charles -> peterkaminski has joined lesblogs michel_v (a client of us) 14:50 -> surfnode has joined lesblogs -> ant0ine has joined lesblogs -> pforret has joined lesblogs -> loiclemeur has joined lesblogs Lanfeust21 En fait, c'est ce n'est pas du tout un bon exemple. C'est même pour l'instant, le contraire. Agoravox utilise souvent le contenu d'autres sites réalisés par des journalistes professionnels (plus les textes parus sur d'autres blogs..) sans rétribuer leurs auteurs, à ma connaissance, il s'agit, en effet de journalisme "gratuit" -> factoryjoe has joined lesblogs -> adecarvalho has joined lesblogs factoryjoe finally 14:51 peterkaminski for sure factoryjoe sup wit da wifi? michel_v yeah, but isn't gilles klein considered an ass, generally, by french bloggers? loiclemeur anybody from vpod tv on the chat ? can you project my mac pls -> jemstone has joined lesblogs peterkaminski maybe probs with the AP software, maybe too many APs interfering with each other _neezee was the wifi down or why was everybody out? 14:52 peterkaminski yeah, couldn't get on -> tara_ has joined lesblogs loiclemeur we managed to get the entire paris chamber of commerce network down jemstone the principle of bivalence: i've learnt something today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_bivalence loiclemeur seems to be back michel_v loic: congrats loiclemeur hehe 14:53 factoryjoe nice -> Les has joined lesblogs michel_v (your first step in disrupting the capitalist pigs' gig! hah) michel_v -> Ed_Daniel has joined lesblogs -> jy_ has joined lesblogs Les we have some connectivity back up 14:54 loiclemeur jy va bosser stp jy_ qui me parle ? -> antoin has joined lesblogs loiclemeur loic loiclemeur jy tu peux leur dire Ed_Daniel salut mes gars, j'espere tout va bien a Paris loiclemeur de projeter mon mac à l'ecran stp jy_ connais pas loiclemeur c'est quel JY ? jy_ mm Bloic?! loiclemeur loiclemeur hehe 14:55 jy_ le beau jy_ celui qui est tout en muscle là _neezee hei. english please. jy_ changes nick to _JY_ -> Crosswick_ has joined lesblogs Crosswick_ changes nick to Crosswick 14:56 -> SkullyFM has joined lesblogs <- photomatt_paris has disconnected ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]") _JY_ yes Bloic please speak English _JY_ "Photomatt has quit Paris" _JY_ oops -> m-c has joined lesblogs znarf michel_v> you're so rude with Gilles Klein 14:57 Ed_Daniel is there a political lobbying session at LesBlogs? -> rodrigo has joined lesblogs <- AndreasHaugstrup has disconnected (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) factoryjoe i think later on -> oliverw has joined lesblogs factoryjoe blogging and politics loiclemeur please be VERY NICE with the network Ed_Daniel cheers joe - we need to get stuff like this covered: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/30/AR2005113002109.html 14:58 loiclemeur we're on the verge of breaking it again _JY_ on the what? peterkaminski niceness++ tara_ what is considered not nice? loiclemeur don't download videos and big files please, don't use skype peterkaminski heckling is okay, tara loiclemeur otherwise we'll break it again factoryjoe phew michel_v _neezee: oh geeze, if they want to joke around in french for less than a dozen lines... tara_ ah...good... -> cfd has joined lesblogs 14:59 tara_ I thought my heckling broke it before peterkaminski tara_ I swear, I was banned for being snarky Ed_Daniel is there an audio feed? antoin tom, we'll have a whip-around at dinner. michel_v stops seeding his torrent of anina pictures -> YmeBosma has joined lesblogs -> problog has joined lesblogs peterkaminski heckling is a high-value-per-byte activity tara_ Let's lobby the French government re: banning free software... 15:00 -> J_Clavier has joined lesblogs Ed_Daniel I think the French government is very au fait with open source tara_ We should be playing the drinking game...everytime you hear the word 'blog' or 'citizen journalist', DRINK! peterkaminski ObLink from before, re: Popperian falsifiability: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability Ed_Daniel France and open source stuff example: http://epnadmin.pierrefitte93.fr/ 15:01 _neezee tara, let that to the irish guys - we will be drunk in 5 minuntes tara_ lol J_Clavier tara> If it is wine we drink, we'll put you all under the table Ed_Daniel they're using that for an i-Ville project to better manage a town's capital expenditure and resources factoryjoe let's bring in the canadian mounties jemstone she means american journalism tara_ LOL...I'm Canadian, remember, I'll be standing... -> mgt has joined lesblogs tara_ <- _neezee has disconnected tara_ What's with pretty boy? m-c tara you'r canadian? 15:02 tara_ yep -> _neezee has joined lesblogs m-c from where? antoin should people have to pay to receive quality, dependable journalism written by non-tourists? _JY_ Canada m-c please say hi later if you can find me tara_ Toronto most recently, raised in small town Alberta problog changes nick to JCHIRAC CharlesN who got's anina picts JCHIRAC me tara_ again: what's with pretty boy? factoryjoe i'm canadian by proximity 15:03 factoryjoe pretty boy? JCHIRAC posted on Flickr tara_ whatshisface speaking CharlesN who's prettyboy J_Clavier pretty boy++ CharlesN JCHIRAC >> URL plse factoryjoe pretty boys: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41089000/jpg/_41089622_saddam_afp_203body.jpg tara_ the guy who hires celebrities to take our readership 15:04 -> wavestorm has joined lesblogs Crosswick iPods should be able to function as field recorders soon Crosswick they already have an AD converter 15:05 tara_ See...access...power....etc. - doesn't sound to blogosphere to me -> chryss has joined lesblogs cyf blogs *are* about power Suw grrrrrrrrr m-c will there be as many podcasters as there are bloggers chryss hi factoryjoe Crosswick: iTrip? dltq no Suw this auditorium is too full Crosswick power can be bidirectional wavestorm hey just to keep you informed one of our two broadband lines failed (the Open-2 network) we reconfigured the Open-1 so that it should handle everything all by itself 15:06 Ed_Daniel why be bound by 'design' Crosswick - they're 300 mp3 player manufacturers in China - love affairs iwth brands huh!? _neezee m-c i think there may be more one day factoryjoe wavestorm++ CharlesN www.ipodnanoblog.fr factoryjoe 17k euro gets you service peterkaminski thx, wavestorm factoryjoe next time let's do 34k wavestorm m-c will all bloggers get into podcasting tara_ reowr Crosswick the iTrip broadcasts thru FM, you can't use it to record Lanfeust21 an Olympus recorder (ws-200) is a cheap tool $120 factoryjoe we'll have to do 68k if we all get into podcasting _neezee m-c no. different kinds of people 15:07 antoin only the ones who love the sound of their own voices. CharlesN how do you want journalist to survive if they can't speak english... factoryjoe Crosswick: maybe not iTrip factoryjoe the other one factoryjoe some griffin thinger Crosswick hehe ok jemstone speech radio is difficult _neezee antoin that is a very simple view. m-c antoin -- LOL factoryjoe eff blogs tara_ Bummer that you can't 'browse' a podcast factoryjoe long live IRC Crosswick I think Adam Curry already talked to Steve Job about this tara_ totally -> AndreasHaugstrup has joined lesblogs adecarvalho CharlesN++ <- AndreasHaugstrup has left lesblogs JCHIRAC even tho you got tools it is not easy to podCast so far factoryjoe i want adam curry's hair _neezee tara you can, but it is still complicated to produce 15:08 CharlesN yes u can browse a podcast m-c podcast will be 'browsable' one day tara_ naw...you still have to download the bugger Ed_Daniel >tart - i guess we're all waiting for Google and other labs to crack the audio indexing conumdrum such as automating transcripts which can then be indexed tara_ it's not the same Ed_Daniel won't be long before it comes, lots of israeli / defence technology already there factoryjoe SMIL helps browse podcasts m-c right now there's only chapters Crosswick let's make a podcast toolchain wiki antoin you could get stuff transcribed offshore, not that expensive. factoryjoe of course SMIL -> microformat for quicktime will be nice 15:09 pforret podzinger and bliki do podcast indexing Lanfeust21 to see where we're going ... just a quick look on the past year adecarvalho or you can do text-to-speech ... Lanfeust21 http://adaptivepath.com/images/publications/essays/What_puts_the_2_in_Web_20.pdf -> dglazkov has joined lesblogs tara_ oh...THAT article m-c speech to text cfd I'm more in Web 3.0... tara_ LOL tara_ Hmmmmm jemstone tom coates (ex bbc) knocked this up before he left us:http://www.plasticbag.org/archives/2005/10/on_the_bbc_annotatable_audio_project.shtml michel_v antoin: and then hire proofreaders onshore? factoryjoe adam curry's hair: http://www.indierocket.com/adventures/childhood/17eighties.gif 15:10 cfd I'll be there when the web 3.0 meme become a reality, you've read it here first... CharlesN http://www.batterytech.com/ to use old accessories on nano and video <- J_Clavier has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) tara_ I'm stuck in 1.0 baby factoryjoe tom coates++ -> AndreasHaugstrup has joined lesblogs m-c i want a web 3.0 t-shirt! Ed_Daniel nice tip PForret, thanks! m-c web 2.0 is sooo 2004 factoryjoe omg m-c <- ludoo has left lesblogs factoryjoe can we please stop talking in numerics cfd Let's do the Web 3.0 sticker and the web 3.0 t-shirts. factoryjoe i want Web IV 15:11 factoryjoe ugh tara_ eff the t-shirts JCHIRAC who sponsor them? dltq go watch videoblogs at mefeedia.com then :> m-c Loic cfd 4.0 is way too much in the future... _JY_ Web 3.11 Workgroup will rock cfd cfd LOL tara_ .0.0.0.00.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. BLECH -> J_Clavier has joined lesblogs factoryjoe web 95 michel_v _JY_++ m-c LOL!! rvr _JY_: lol factoryjoe hmm cfd Web Vista tara_ eff .0 _JY_ WEB ME will be soo soo cfd in 2007 rodrigo http://www.loiclemeur.com/france/2005/11/face_alain_minc.html -> neezee_away has joined lesblogs 15:12 _JY_ and Web Vista will be.. well.; will be factoryjoe "human effort" Crosswick technology IS a human efor Crosswick effort factoryjoe i dunno about that _JY_ Scoble don't beat me Lanfeust21 Jeff Clavier : you've said you'll be provocative this afternoon : could you explain how a little bit? factoryjoe he's going to get to the "bottom" of things tara_ C'mon Jeff, provocate this 15:13 tara_ bottoms up! Lanfeust21 really? factoryjoe stealth? J_Clavier Bit late to ask the question tara_ Stealth J_Clavier See the panel factoryjoe stealth bomber? -> FrankM has joined lesblogs tara_ long tail - DRINK factoryjoe i dig short tails rodrigo stealth company => very web 2.0 right ? factoryjoe like rat tails tara_ um....nope cfd 1.9 just under the 2.0 peterkaminski stealth == web 1.5 J_Clavier No long tail tara_ exactly J_Clavier No stealth Lanfeust21 hugh!!! <- pierre__ has left lesblogs cfd 1.9999999 (long tail version) J_Clavier No money 15:14 factoryjoe this is what i think of stealth companies: http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/b2/images/b2_15.jpg tara_ blogs are different tara_ opinions rock FrankM A video of this morning is online on http://tinyurl.com/8gh2a (nevermind the dutch intro) J_Clavier GoogleBomb! cfd newsparper are different too. dltq tx frankm tara_ garbage rocks Lanfeust21 a GoogleBomb on who or whatN 15:15 tara_ bring on the garbage tara_ oh wait.... FrankM working on the next vid factoryjoe field trip! <- SkullyFM has disconnected tara_ whereabouts are you thinking Joe? CharlesN go jeff go <- jemstone has disconnected 15:16 <- FrankM has disconnected (Client Quit) cfd could we visit a blog newsroom? cfd (or are we in one?) -> jemstone has joined lesblogs peterkaminski NPOV: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPOV _JY_ Long tail is very pretentious factoryjoe tara_: IHT cfd short tail is better. 15:17 factoryjoe http://koinpro.tripod.com/BarsMedalsRounds/StealthBomberBar.jpg -> mark_hu has joined lesblogs Suw npov isn't really all that perfect Suw i think it's overrated mark_hu hi:) rvr Suw: where are you? CharlesN Vpod arreter la frime <- m-c has disconnected 15:18 <- mgt has disconnected ("Xirc - MacOSX") <- loiclemeur has disconnected 15:19 <- _JY_ has disconnected (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) dltq Nicole - I'm listening to your pre-conference podcasts. Great stuff! Good work <- surfnode has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:20 CharlesN it's second nature to be rude for a french guy CharlesN Paris riot are place de la Bastille CharlesN it's burning right now cfd yep 2.0 is overused 15:21 Lanfeust21 who's the good guy in the panel? Lanfeust21 the good, the bad and the ugly ... and the last one is ???? CharlesN HA Mac.... 15:22 JaanusSkype heyhey.. theyre gonna burn the projector this way or something CharlesN never works factoryjoe CharlesN: wait, fer real? pforret where's Om Malik? factoryjoe the bastille is burning factoryjoe pforret: he cancelled CharlesN yep for real, Bastille is on fire factoryjoe um factoryjoe isn't that a big deal? factoryjoe or does that happen often? <- dglazkov has disconnected dltq omg CharlesN nope another 1000 burned cars <- ant0ine has disconnected ("This computer has gone to sleep") neezee_away raymond thx - i will have some post conference as well 15:23 Lanfeust21 web 2.0 is a great joke CharlesN anyway, we cannot drive in Paris JaanusSkype bastille was set on fire by the crowds frustrated by all this 2.0 nonsense Lanfeust21 ppt is burning the projector -> dglazkov has joined lesblogs -> fmahon has joined lesblogs 15:24 factoryjoe ppt should be burned factoryjoe hey dglazkov factoryjoe welcome CharlesN Question: How cars are burned per year in UK vs. Fr? 60000 for UK versus 30000 for France last year fmahon taadaa dglazkov hey! What's all the lesblogging about? -> m-c has joined lesblogs antoin gymiani i love that. 15:25 dglazkov hi factoryjoe! neezee_away changes nick to NicoleSimon factoryjoe you might just hang out, i'm sure i'll spin up some microformats stuff eventually factoryjoe for now, jeff clavier is talking about making money factoryjoe NicoleSimon how is this sudenly an owned name *gr* NicoleSimon changes nick to nisi JCHIRAC hard to get i am sure nisi good. 15:26 dglazkov great topic, factoryjoe chryss hi nisi. thanks for passing on the hat. m-c sleeepy.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hammersley/70482900/ CharlesN MAc sucks 15:27 Lanfeust21 has Jeff invested in Technorati? factoryjoe m-c: i think that's a tshirt for les blogs JCHIRAC Technorati tech support on panel factoryjoe powerpoint at 640x840-- 15:29 Disconnected from chat 15:31 Joining chat room... 15:32 Joining chat room... Started talking in lesblogs on esmaspäev 05.12.2005 15:32:22 Room topic is: Official backchannel || tag: lesblogs <- cfd has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -> antoin has joined lesblogs <- JCHIRAC has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <- Les has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <- JaanusSkype has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <- factoryjoe has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) dltq nice <- nisi has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <- wavestorm has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -> olivert has joined lesblogs cliebert anyway ... <- cyf has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) -> tariq_netvibes has joined lesblogs <- tara_ has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -> Antho has joined lesblogs <- jstuker has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) cliebert is there any blogger alive @the conference ? 15:33 ebow ok is anina here? -> mgt has joined lesblogs -> m-c has joined lesblogs -> mung has joined lesblogs tariq_netvibes hi every body cliebert anina ... so fashion -> jemstone has joined lesblogs cliebert hello tariq -> LoRez has joined lesblogs -> tara_ has joined lesblogs -> wavestorm has joined lesblogs Jaanus2 changes nick to JaanusSkype -> flevy has joined lesblogs znarf hey tariq wavestorm sligt failure from FT -> marc-o has joined lesblogs flevy Hello from Brazil!!! 15:34 mung jo cliebert FT .. isn't just a failure flevy wavestorm whatever -> Crosswick_ has joined lesblogs Crosswick_ changes nick to Crosswick -> factoryjoe has joined lesblogs wavestorm next year we might have wimax -> CharlesN has joined lesblogs -> peterkaminski has joined lesblogs -> Suw has joined lesblogs factoryjoe hmm am i back? wavestorm yup 15:35 tara_ whew peterkaminski back too dglazkov it's stormy today in IRC <- jemstone has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) -> sztahanov has joined lesblogs -> _neezee has joined lesblogs -> MetcaB01 has joined lesblogs MetcaB01 changes nick to dotBen -> pforret has joined lesblogs 15:36 cliebert Charles N , are you there ? Suw did he just say 'mojo'? CharlesN yep dglazkov did somebody say microformats? -> adecarvalho has joined lesblogs cliebert did somebody says Bubble 3.0 factoryjoe dglazkov: patience factoryjoe it's not our turn yet antoin shhh factoryjoe factoryjoe it's a two day conference dglazkov factoryjoe we're 2/3 day 1 factoryjoe 15:37 CharlesN cliebert>> wanna talk to me ? -> rodrigo has joined lesblogs factoryjoe but when we're on the screen, y'know, i need back up factoryjoe -> Salim has joined lesblogs Suw is looking forward to Day 3 cliebert no, just checking Salim is anyone else having major connection problems? I just got on after 30 mins cliebert hi rodrigo dglazkov ok. just let me know CharlesN Rodrigo,smile CharlesN nice rodrigo insztant smile on IRC cliebert hu hu hu 15:38 dglazkov is checking his pom-poms m-c yeah, connection is on and off peterkaminski Salim, yes tara_ pom poms? cliebert Smile with Rodrigo, and the world smile with you -> cfd has joined lesblogs _neezee salim yes. but as you are working on your presentation anyhow ... dotBen salim: yeah connection sucks -> jemstone has joined lesblogs tariq_netvibes lol dglazkov tara_; you know, for cheerleading 15:39 flevy tara_ oh yes! I need some pom poms! -> surfnode has joined lesblogs factoryjoe yes flevy changes nick to fernandabrazil 15:40 factoryjoe we need more mu-F cheerleaders! tara_ I just like to say 'pom pom' factoryjoe hurrah hurrah! tara_ money money money money cliebert pompom cliebert pom tara_ k...so what does this have to do with our blogs? cliebert pom pom tara_ me me me cliebert enought ? CharlesN Rodrigo drop the camera for a sec' tara_ money for my blog? CharlesN stop playing with your new toy 15:41 tara_ are we back on the pom poms? _neezee or just turn off the sounds -> _JY_ has joined lesblogs dotBen attention businesses! rodrigo it's not new: but it might be fun for you to see hwhat the audienc elooks like from up here tara_ up where? tara_ oh.... rodrigo on stage (speakers) tara_ there -> nikolajn has joined lesblogs jibot nikolajn is in Denmark, Copenhagen and currently attending Supernova _neezee dotBen there is nothing wrong with doing business tara_ there are speakers? CharlesN turn it a little on the left then, so i'll be on screen dotBen no there isisnt 15:42 -> roby has joined lesblogs _neezee nikolajn i would say you are not at supernova any more pforret Your blog, www.horsepigcow.com, is worth $95,971.80 dotBen yells MIC tara_ how do we monetize sticky eyeballs ? cliebert big up for rodrigo then .... -> cyf has joined lesblogs Ed_Daniel any live feeds at LesBlogs for us poor souls stuck at work ? tara_ show me the money pforret http://www.business-opportunities.biz/projects/how-much-is-your-blog-worth/ -> BenHammersley has joined lesblogs tara_ Flickr! pforret spend it first dotBen hammers' 15:43 rodrigo ed > we'll stream teh panels as of next week dltq hey ben mung tag : lesblogs _neezee hei ben. i saw you start growing at least some hair again. dotBen yes -> Les_Blogs has joined lesblogs -> jy_ has joined lesblogs Les_Blogs changes nick to Les tara_ Ed: www.http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/lesblogs/ <- jemstone has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) dotBen The grey is alsmost gone <- _JY_ has disconnected (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) Ewan_ Mr H! Ed_Daniel tx T dotBen what the fuck with sixapart? tara_ it's about as streaming as it gets cliebert sixapart ... BenHammersley is in the house 15:44 rvr BenHammersley: I think your photo of Marc Canter will become (in)famous factoryjoe gah factoryjoe $77,341.98. tara_ ben, GREAT shot of Marc BenHammersley at least he wasn't drooling BenHammersley factoryjoe rvr rvr ha rvr factoryjoe tara_ you could photoshop that in Ed_Daniel yeah ben, nice shot! factoryjoe i can gaurentee that's it's going to be famous mung lol <- wavestorm has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) mung photoshop contest on Marc? dglazkov ok, who's going to come up with a t-shirt tagline for it? 15:45 cliebert looks like nobody listening to the conference Ed_Daniel they gave me all this money and all i could come up with was this finger tara_ sure we're listening dotBen yeah, they ain't giving anything away m-c 'blog me i'm sleeping' mung lol mung lol dotBen if they thought there was money to be made in something then they'd be doing it cliebert multitasking blogger ??? jy_ he's not sleeping he's thinking cfd he's now sleeping with one hand in the air. dglazkov REM 2.0 AndreasHaugstrup BenHammersley: I'm glad to see you took my hight video in lighthearted mood it was meant for 15:46 BenHammersley oh, mate, it my day BenHammersley I laughed so hard I started to cry tara_ thank goodness for flickr m-c he's famous dltq heh, let's do some remixes Andreas factoryjoe omg nikolajn http://flickr.com/photos/ross/6344606/ factoryjoe i'm so in trouble dotBen bubblet- sounds like denile to me 15:47 dotBen bubble or no bubble - no middle way -> wavestorm has joined lesblogs -> ethanz has joined lesblogs jibot ethanz is usually in western MA, USA. blogs at http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethan and spends most of his time thinking about Africa or bacon. wavestorm hey wavestorm te second line is up and running tara_ bacon ... mmmmm <- LoRez has left lesblogs ("Leaving") cliebert hu hu wavestorm if you feel like it you can switch to blog-2 wifi network AndreasHaugstrup Great! It's my claim to fame. Taking one-liners out of context... or something <- fernandabrazil has left lesblogs rvr nikolajn: lol 15:48 BenHammersley it's a talent, I grant you dotBen wavestorm - where do we claim for a refund, the connectivities been crap dotBen not worth â?¬17k cliebert a claim cliebert . AndreasHaugstrup dltq: I started to look through your footage from bloggforum, but I didn't get around to it until after I had made the video (sadly) wavestorm ask for FT & the CCIP AndreasHaugstrup I wanted to go back and do more later tara_ hype hype hype AndreasHaugstrup from all sessions cfd t-shirts are coming... wavestorm (especialliy the ccip ) tara_ DRINK! factoryjoe wavestorm: cool antoin i reckon there is a better way to design the setup for online conferences. proxy servers, local chat servers, etc. cliebert for a 10 Keuros seems quite buggy ? m-c cfd -- you are so into this conference hm? 15:49 dotBen same old idea wavestorm well the FT line only failed a few secs dotBen couldn't ge on for about 45mins wavestorm the CCIP failed for what... ? 2 hours ? <- Salim has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) _neezee on and off again. CharlesN and whet vpod business model ? -> rs_ has joined lesblogs _neezee i would say just too many laptops ;)( tara_ gah! znarf hey rs_ tara_ Too many laptops? rs_ hi there BenHammersley video as a means to expression is TOO DIFFICULT 15:50 _neezee but a local server for irc before connection out is good. dltq why? dotBen yeah I think it's easier to write than video, actually wavestorm looks like everybody is being served with WiFi though! _neezee tara_ yes. shut down the one of pretty boy, he can look at yours antoin well, it takes some planning. writing is much easier. dotBen also yes I use a video at birthdays and weddings, but I write every day rvr But video and audio are much more emotional m-c arent blogs, vblog and podcasting just means of expression?!? <- tariq_netvibes has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) BenHammersley VCs who don't actually use technology make me cry znarf who are u rs_ ? Ben or Oliv ? antoin yes, if you want to start a revolution, you need video! -> Salim has joined lesblogs rs_ olivier dltq there are pieces of Ben's presentation in Stockholm that you cant appreciate fully without the visual rs_ the tech guy from dailymotion 15:51 peterkaminski dotBen, i think some people are good writers, some people are good talkers, some people are good videographers znarf yeah i know ! -> mark__hu has joined lesblogs antoin the what? Ed_Daniel good call PK - it's when you put 'em together you get something special dotBen peterkaminski: and no good video'erS: AndreasHaugstrup video is by nature more documentary <- wavestorm has disconnected (Client Quit) cliebert hello olivier _neezee BenHammersley i spready the link of your audio to some more people and told them you will evolve greatly from that talk - so looking forward -> neilmcintosh has joined lesblogs antoin home-made porno. antoin it's gonna be massive. AndreasHaugstrup dltq: I don't think I can appreciate BenHammersley withouth the visual <- roby has disconnected (Remote closed the connection) 15:52 m-c everyone is photoshoping the pict of the guy sleeping now, awesome peterkaminski i wonder if we'll get the Blogger or Movable Type of video someday BenHammersley is entirely video based Suw can anyone appreciate BenHammersley without the visual? BenHammersley or the tactile _neezee BenHammersley of course. you are just the show man. rodrigo isn't sign language great ? dltq peterkaminski yeah that's what we are all waiting for tara_ tactile....mmmmmm BenHammersley \0/ neilmcintosh yr a married man, Hammersley... Salim i think video is a long way off... it's just so much heavier than text... 100s of formats, etc etc.. .it's going to take a while (imho) Suw don't get him started dotBen but wheres the money going ot come from BenHammersley I'm the flickr of tactile blogging 15:53 dltq true, Salim. still we are having fun with it Suw but no kilt today AndreasHaugstrup Salim: it's already going on. Formats schmormats Suw which is, frankly, disappointing tara_ that rocks BenHammersley not today - tomorrow rodrigo where you see complexity, there is an opportunity to simplify (for salim) <- cfd has left lesblogs -> cfd has joined lesblogs Suw where you see complexity, I see a man in a kilt _neezee salim yes, but at the same time it is about a different kind of perception, as well as with audio doing this to text - having an audio to text is already quite different rs_ how the conference is doing? _neezee suw thx, i know something was different. Salim ok - I take the points,... but i still maintain we're a ways off.... Ed_Daniel some of the obvious models that drive the money are money focused such as 'betting tips', 'financial analysis' - after that look at what you pay money for now... factoryjoe http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70492753/ tara_ conference? There's a conference? dotBen I agree with Salim cfd not sure, everybody is chatting... Salim now, if someone can create a really simple video thing, then great! _neezee BenHammersley so you are just showing off and not really living up to it? dissappointing 15:54 znarf rs_ > they're sleeping or photoshopping ... BenHammersley tomorrow I shall also wax my tache _neezee wear a wig, please. tara_ joe: LOL!!!! antoin yeah, yahoo should stop hiring journalists. rvr factoryjoe: Fantastic!!! rvr :DDD neilmcintosh joe: brilliance factoryjoe Salim yeah Dave, whack him... ! -> aa has joined lesblogs 15:55 znarf factoryjoe++ dotBen here we go <- olivert has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <- Suw has disconnected (Connection reset by peer) <- mung has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) dotBen ... factoryjoe oh, he woke up! dotBen lol neilmcintosh does he know? factoryjoe btw, if anyone is available for protection, i'm interested dltq not yet -> mung has joined lesblogs tara_ c'mon...put up that flickr photostream! -> olivert has joined lesblogs factoryjoe likewise 15:56 -> Suw has joined lesblogs tara_ throw us a bone! factoryjoe Y!Zzzzz dotBen new open yahoo - lol cfd stale powerpoint out! factoryjoe Flickrzzzz -> seefeld has joined lesblogs tara_ flickr flickr flickr! rodrigo tell LOic to come down and plug in his mac fro teh flickr show -> RMacK has joined lesblogs jibot RMacK is sometimes a slightly devil's advocate and quite good at it tara_ Loic? cfd Flickr! now! rodrigo he's behind near the door RMacK where is the flickr pic cfd loic is sleeping? 15:57 factoryjoe c'mon baby, light my fire ebow is anina online? mung got to shoot that factoryjoe is he? Ed_Daniel ROFLMAO tara_ fire up your camera! rodrigo nope, he's the one managing the flcikr pix factoryjoe get a photo! ethanz Loic deserves a rest. Okay if he's sleeping now BenHammersley Corporate blogging is faux openness designed to shut the bloggers up -> jemstone has joined lesblogs Salim can't imagine AOL beating yahoo... anyone care to comment on that? dotBen whoa hammersley RMacK http://www.flickr.com/photos/94657696@N00/70493386/ tara_ fauxpenness BenHammersley tara_: nice -> perfectpath has joined lesblogs dotBen talking about overstatement antoin well, maybe in a googlefight. 15:58 factoryjoe marc's looking kind of red BenHammersley The Fat Man Sings! RMacK time warner is such an incompetently managed company, as long as they own aol i wouldnt bet on aol -> YmeBosma has joined lesblogs factoryjoe comrade++ Salim RMacK: agree... AOL comes across as quite disorganized... tara_ ! tara_ Turk! factoryjoe ...where people==robots BenHammersley has a mechanical turk neilmcintosh paid? oh, please. dotBen consumers who are bored can get paid 3c to sport a door in a photo. wooo Suw can i get a mechanical scot? with a kilt? neilmcintosh let's launch some e-money next BenHammersley well, it's more a young turk 15:59 factoryjoe has a mechanical watch rodrigo guys - your voice is heard up here, loic is ready for his flickr show dotBen welcome to slave labour dotBen who wants to do it for 3c? tara_ I have a mechanical scot BenHammersley he brings me sweetmeats and dancing girls factoryjoe or a mechanical mountie tara_ michel_v hmm tara_ mechanical bull cliebert let's hack it Suw battery powered BenHammersley Abdul! The girls! *clap*clap* michel_v "Too Many Laptops" sounds like a nice band name -> loiclemeur has joined lesblogs cfd flicker! cfd on screen. dotBen Too Many Laptops sounds like the name of this conference... factoryjoe how was your nap loiclemeur? tara_ Eyeballs! DRINK 16:00 tara_ flickr! Flickr! mung btw great to have lot of plugs <- jy_ has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) factoryjoe horde of rapid attack squirrels! *clap* *clap* CharlesN Just check with loic to put the flickr on wide screen BenHammersley unleashes the squirrels dotBen HOOOORAY neilmcintosh not the squirrels! they're evil. cfd yeah! dotBen LOL 16:01 -> jstuker has joined lesblogs neilmcintosh wahey -> jy_ has joined lesblogs Suw ha ha ha tara_ tag BenHammersley I'm soooo fucked cfd clap clap clap! factoryjoe ditto tara_ look up the tag cloud factoryjoe what's the tag? tara_ lesblogs tag factoryjoe cantersleeping? neilmcintosh no logo tho tara_ ya ya ethanz good to know I'm so predictable that marc can safely sleep through our panel... Salim oh Ben, that was great...... 16:02 BenHammersley he's behind me. I'm going to die dltq someone GOT to film this! tara_ lol... BenHammersley has been sung at before tara_ Sorry man, you're on your own neilmcintosh ben - use your pace. pforret it was nice to know you, ben neilmcintosh if you start running now... factoryjoe ben, use your mace rodrigo it's being filmed dltq the mac is broken anyway neilmcintosh joe: lol cliebert headline tomorow ... bloody vengeance among bloggers @ les blogs. 2.0 16:03 neilmcintosh bloggy hell <- mark_hu has disconnected (Connection timed out) Suw ok, dear, that photo seems to have slowed Flickr to a crawl 16:04 Suw what have you done... michel_v riots erupting at les blogs over wifi frustrations. three hundred laptops burned by angry bloggers! dltq im having a laughing fit here in Oslo factoryjoe "b-list bloggers rise to prominence as a-listers finish each other off" <- antoin has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) cliebert tomorrowlol -> ant0ine has joined lesblogs cliebert hu hu hu rodrigo www.spreadshirt.Com Suw we should lock the A-listers in the room d ownstairs with the very last canape and see who comes out alive at the end 16:05 cliebert Riots - nowhere but in paris ... Ewan_ Note for conference organsiers - just have some ethernet patch cables beside the plugs... _neezee i am not burning my laptop. cliebert smeel the burn ? Ewan_ Suw: probably ben, he'd lift his skirt Suw he's sadly betrousered at hte moment Suw he's let the side down Suw it's a sad, sad day for utilikilt fans BenHammersley ffs - I'm *sorry* all right? rvr Suw: Yeah, the Next Big Thing(TM) will be "reality blogs" -> fmahon has joined lesblogs BenHammersley I'll wear a skirt tomorrow 16:06 Suw alright Suw *pouts* BenHammersley cries factoryjoe hmm Ewan_ Ben when you get iconic clothing, you have no choice -> EZToms has joined lesblogs rvr Blog Survavivals factoryjoe can we can my header up on les blogs? dotBen nooooooooooooooooo dotBen no skirt hammersley Ewan_ It's like a Baker-esque scark or a Linus blanket BenHammersley this is true Suw see, it's not just me. BenHammersley I'm speaking tomorrow, so skirt and suicidegirls t-shirt, as is traditional 16:07 <- ant0ine has disconnected ("This computer has gone to sleep") factoryjoe ooooo i'm so dead Ewan_ better Suw why are you banned from the tag stream? factoryjoe i post non-photos BenHammersley is taking factoryjoe with him Suw oh dear. is that bad for some reason? factoryjoe yay! factoryjoe well Suw BenHammersley: out to the back of the bike sheds? factoryjoe my photos don't show up in groups or tag streams factoryjoe yeah, sux0r ethanz I think it's a good thing that Loic has a sufficient sense of humor that he's putting these images up in the background... 16:08 Suw wow, that's really crap Suw that's censorship factoryjoe loiclemeur++ fmahon factoryjoe: nice photoshop job !!!! factoryjoe suw: yup factoryjoe loiclemeur CharlesN Nice job!! dotBen horaay for loic + his private jet! BenHammersley and the IRC is on the screen CharlesN lol BenHammersley so, erm, no dirty words factoryjoe to the private jet! Ewan_ is tempted Suw anyone here from flickr? -> photomatt_paris has joined lesblogs dltq I want to join the Ben&Joe fan club michel_v BenHammersley: dirty words like... skyblog? 16:09 _neezee Ewan_ you are not here, so behave yourself tara_ Ben & Joe! Ben & Joe! Ewan_ So if I was there I could misbehave??? factoryjoe so in trouble... cliebert typepad is a dirty word too ... sometimes ... Suw isn't that a type of ice cream? factoryjoe Ewan_: totally BenHammersley geocities is the new typepad factoryjoe no no, we make ice cream _neezee icecream is always nice. Suw typepad is the new geocities? Crosswick yeastcoast? factoryjoe *reckless* ice cream factoryjoe can i getta what what? cliebert hu hu hu loiclemeur BenHammersley: we have just called the french riots intervention forces to get you out of the room tara_ it's the flickr of blogware neilmcintosh suw: did you ever use geocities? 16:10 tara_ DRINK cliebert GIGN for Ben ??? BenHammersley the French police are a bunch of girls -> wavestorm has joined lesblogs ethanz geocities - now that's a dirty word... Suw neilmcintosh: if i answer that do i incriminate myself? BenHammersley all that black padding _neezee tara i would say drink for bay area also tara_ DRINK BenHammersley real police wear skirts and war paint Suw all that black pudding? dotBen WEAK TEA neilmcintosh is that Canter striking a match? Ben - watch out! dotBen arrr BenHammersley fight the power\ AndreasHaugstrup lives in SoHo/5478 dotBen it moooves -> Bjoern_HH has joined lesblogs CharlesN and real police quick black asses in the street ?? 16:11 cliebert carefull guys factoryjoe dotBen! mung it was near Salim ohh... a handshake... no good... dotBen Marc leaves to find somewhere quiet to nap dglazkov where are the live feeds!? BenHammersley he slipped me some poison BenHammersley arrrgggggh tara_ Flickr Flickr Flickr dotBen jactoyjoe! mung lol ethanz he's off to get a gun from the woman on the morning's panel BenHammersley can't breath tara_ DRINK dotBen factoryjoe! even _neezee dotBen not quite but without cameras mung lol dltq rofl@this neilmcintosh poison. in the hand. like 24 <- Bjoern_HH has disconnected (Remote closed the connection) dltq now is when we need the flickr of video already BenHammersley changes nick to DeadBen tara_ totally CharlesN tara> r u that thirsty ? dotBen maybe marc let one rip as he walked past, Ben 16:12 -> martinvars has joined lesblogs cliebert dailymotion ... tara_ I'm playing the drinking game....obviously By Myself! cliebert video flickr ? DeadBen silent, but deadly CharlesN dailymotion sucks? _neezee tara_ and also with your own money tara_ that sux michel_v dltq: there's dailymotion.com DeadBen there's a drinking game? dotBen us IRC'ers are all idiot's really. The rest of this lot are listening to how to become millionaires. and we're photoshoping Marc Canter and alking about poison <- jemstone has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) dltq oh lol I know, and vimeo and youtube and blip.tv and and tara_ I thought we were going to be monetized during this session? dotBen CharlesN drinking game? where? DeadBen changes nick to TheAntiScoble 16:13 michel_v dotBen: what if photoshopping Marc Canter is the Web 3.0 thing to do? mung is there a next CanterPSD round? _neezee ben you missed that presentation, that was this morning TheAntiScoble c'mere baby, I'm monetise you tara_ Canter 2.0 cfd Each time they say 2.0 you get to drink? michel_v dotBen: you'll be glad you did photoshop Marc Canter when THAT happens neilmcintosh dotben: you mean you haven't made your first million yet? loiclemeur hehe Ben back again as theantiscoble loiclemeur 8) cliebert dailymotion doesn't suck ... dotBen neil: almost ) Ed_Daniel btw this might interest as an example of blog-teams: http://performancing.com/about 16:14 jy_ COFFEE <- loiclemeur has disconnected dotBen DRINK neilmcintosh I'm only about two mill off, dotben <- fmahon has disconnected Suw ooh break! <- _neezee has disconnected neilmcintosh drink! tara_ dying for one cliebert CharlesN >> should see their last improvment to dailymotion <- neilmcintosh has disconnected <- Suw has disconnected photomatt_paris factoryjoe: how'd you get banned? TheAntiScoble drink! <- olivert has disconnected <- pforret has disconnected 16:23 Disconnected from chat 16:57 Joining chat room... Started talking in lesblogs on esmaspäev 05.12.2005 16:57:19 Room topic is: Official backchannel || tag: lesblogs dotBen did I get kicked -> _neezee has joined lesblogs jibot _neezee is Nicole Simon from usefulsounds.com and crueltobeking.org and as nice as jeannie. _neezee rehi <- olivert has disconnected (Remote closed the connection) -> felixpetersen has joined lesblogs 16:58 Geoff_ Hi Ben and Suw sorry that I didnt make it to hear you again - Geoff Jones, Cambridge -> olivert has joined lesblogs -> dglazkov has joined lesblogs Suw Geoff_: it's a shame you're not here. it's fun. :)_ dotBen yeah dotBen hope the blogging is doing justice to the event -> jy_ has joined lesblogs dotBen I'm being told to appologise by Jem Stone 16:59 jemstone beppe grillo:http://www.beppegrillo.it/english.php dltq hmm not really, but the photoshopping is great Geoff_ Not much arounf at the moment loiclemeur Hi Geogg ! BenHammersley waves to Geoff_ loiclemeur Geoff _neezee dotBen for what this time? loiclemeur oops Geoff_ Thanks Ben and suw dotBen no ipdea _neezee we are busy getting access again, so we have no time to blog Suw Geoff_: have you checked the flickr stream? tag: lesblogs mung design the web 3.0 tshirt dotBen come on, we've all read it dotBen incdicates there is a conference session going on... 17:00 <- mcabiling has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -> mcabiling has joined lesblogs dglazkov dotBen, how's the session? And which one is on? antoin ?whois dotben Geoff_ I was hoping for a River Of News stream - will check Flickr now jibot Nobody has defined dotben yet Suw politics and blogging gily italian democraty dotBen so we're currently hearing about politics in blogging 17:01 mung politics ... _neezee in different languages ... dotBen and in particuarlly looking at italian media vs blogging -> Crosswick_ has joined lesblogs -> adc has joined lesblogs Crosswick_ changes nick to Crosswick mung 2 actually peterkaminski and http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/lesblogs/interesting/ -- Ben's picture is moving up the attention list amongst the Les Blogs 1 photos dotBen seems very popular osme of the blogs CharlesN can we get that ppt from somewhere, is it online? adc changes nick to adecarvalho _neezee but in case of the italien one, he actually has an audience through a blog Crosswick changes nick to crosswick 17:02 gily lobbying with his blog -> roby has joined lesblogs CharlesN exemple of a French Think Tank about politics : http://www.clubdesvigilants.com -> i-sams has joined lesblogs _neezee we should hear more people from their own country talking about what is happening, so we all have the same understanding of what is happening around europe dltq yeah nicole peterkaminski _neezee++ 17:03 <- adriankoooo has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) antoin it could be a business model! CharlesN _neezee > open a wiki about it antoin if you could get a good discount on the advertising ... hmm ... -> howard has joined lesblogs jibot howard is Howard Rheingold and at http://www.rheingold.com/ and blogs at http://www.smartmobs.com/ dltq i (heart) smartmobs lol 17:04 factoryjoe hey, the US president is a crack addict, what're you worried about? loiclemeur hey Howard ! CharlesN howard rheingold++ _neezee well, i was not so much aware of it before, but as for example i am in germany, i should blog more about what is happening here - or not - so we all can share and discover more of what our differences and similarites _neezee are. factoryjoe i kid, i kid Suw neezee, yeah, it's so easy to look to america for what is going on but i'd like a better idea of what is happening in europe nikolajn rollcall: any french/european open source companies in audience? (o'reilly & others starting to map open source and other startups in europe) loiclemeur Howard too bad I missed you in Paris last time _neezee nikolajn define open source _neezee nikolajn and - blog about it, we can link you howard no no, i met howard rheingold at a Well party in 1988, but I'm a different guy... factoryjoe nikolajn: http://swik.net/ 17:05 CharlesN Loic> u missed a great presentation nikolajn swik.net in audience? dltq i agree _neezee, i should vlog more from Norway as well. Nothing much happens here, but we have great reindeer meat _neezee haha. 17:06 dltq i couldnt make it to lesblogs, but I am going to attend LIFT in Geneve :> dotBen loic: other than the wifi, this has been a good conference so far! loiclemeur yes, too bad -> surfnode has joined lesblogs loiclemeur dotBen thanks ! loiclemeur wifi is really hard to manage factoryjoe nikolajn: don't think so factoryjoe just thought it might help you find some Suw very cool speakers. specially this panel. mcabiling wifi is way better than the last time _neezee loiclemeur yeah, just complaining on high level. rvr What kind of videos do they sell? 17:07 dotBen despite my joking around, I agree loic + sympathise loiclemeur yes, I really like Beppe Grillo's David presentation cliebert victims of da Bonnaldy Effect (french joke) -> J_Clavier has joined lesblogs 17:08 dotBen suw - you would say that <- BenHammersley has disconnected (Remote closed the connection) <- cyf has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) nikolajn _neezee: will do. just would like to see if there are any open source (as in publishing your code) companies or projects in the audience for a chat 17:09 antoin well, there's fon people here. Suw dotBen: i can't deny my bias -> BenHammersley has joined lesblogs Suw specially whilst irc is not on the main screen <- neilmcintosh has disconnected dotBen yeah, you were telling me how sexy the man in the pink shirt is Geoff_ Loic I'm surprised that you are having wifi problems - you spent a bundle of money on it! 17:10 antoin the problem with network stuff is that the more you provide, the more demand there is. dotBen thats how you become a "big blogger" link to others Suw you are projecting again, dotBen dotBen it's informed agregation, not original opinion Geoff_ maybe bittorrents could be disabled 17:11 dotBen uni study - students, tsk! Geoff_ Loic a graph of wifi usage would be really cool - giving feedback to userd Geoff_ Would become self limiting then antoin the important point is that the two blobs don't join up! rvr That was an study from HP Labs dotBen GO KEVI dotBen N mung anyone know something about Non profit association blogging? 17:12 maartens Republicans vs. Democrats is so limited loiclemeur Geoff, I don't have that handy... maartens I know Glenn Reynolds would object to being called a Republican -> weemac has joined lesblogs maartens pro-gay marriage etc... jemstone kevin and the democrat convention for the bbc:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3927801.stm Geoff_ Loic more as an idea on future events (will try on next OSW) _neezee loic could you perhaps ask that question shortly as if some open source are in the room? that might help. nikolajn, can i write you down for the post conference podcast? 17:13 dotBen oooh, the b word --- bubble loiclemeur _neezee you're projected on the main screen everybody sees you ! dltq i hope someone is paying nicole good for those podcasts. excellent way to package the conference imo _neezee loiclemeur but some people actually follow just the session loiclemeur can we prepare the questions of that session here ? loiclemeur _neezee 17:14 BenHammersley loiclemeur: do you want me on the panel after my talk tomorrow? _neezee loiclemeur i mean it. many are distracted by that and ignore that in order to stay insane Geoff_ nezee - really great idea - I'm sure the usage would become self limiting if everyone could see the actual usage maartens Yeeaaaargh! loiclemeur Ben, if you are nice to me until tomorrow antoin the thing is that it isn't the guy who's most rallyed up who wins. _neezee Geoff_ so we would be humbled by our wastage? crosswick http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.01/dean.html nikolajn loic: i'd love if you could let the open source people know at the end of one of the sessions, that i'd lve to chat with them. especially if they're french loiclemeur Yes, Ben please stay nikolajn _neezee: yes <- roby has disconnected dotBen antoin: no it's the person people knows the most == thus the blog 17:15 _neezee BenHammersley, you promised something challenging again, so you should better deliver that ; loiclemeur nikoajn, the problem I have is about 15 people asked me to pass messages loiclemeur one was "can everybody who has a Mac let us know" nikolajn loic: np. i understand. BenHammersley will be talking about babylonian town planning Geoff_ nezee - its like roads if you see a jam outside you stay at home loiclemeur so if I do it for you I have to do it for everybody antoin he never would have won! 17:16 loiclemeur Ben, yep, stay on the panel tomorrow pls BenHammersley loiclemeur: cool rvr http://www.hpl.hp.com/research/idl/papers/politicalblogs loiclemeur we'll actually react to your presentation, so you'd better rock <- howard has disconnected peterkaminski we should set up a thing where whatever you type appears on a screen at the front of the room... loiclemeur BenHammersley Suw i think the speakers should have a little monitor so they can see the backchannel AndreasHaugstrup loiclemeur: beware. He might start bashing the french again dotBen yeah, can the open source people read this? job done Suw oh, wait, no i don't. jemstone it was about raising funds to carry on the campaign loiclemeur hehe yannk a rearview mirror loiclemeur Jeff Jarvis bashes the french MUCH more 17:17 rodrigo Loic> are you on a private chat up here ? Suw don't look round guys! loiclemeur Rodrigo is staying just on my right !!! -> NicoleS has joined lesblogs -> fmahon has joined lesblogs dotBen nice point maartens Porkbusters! 17:18 dotBen us blogosphere - more than red/blue loiclemeur I am so hungry, forgot to eat at lunch, just was saying hello to everybody mcabiling hmm i see a few netstumblers on some screens dotBen yeah, keep your passwords out the clear people <- peterkaminski has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) weemac I'm starving - do those mics pick up tummy rumbles?! jemstone kevins bbc programme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/upallnight.shtml Suw well i think sometimes the idea that journalism is about dialogue - two sides of a story - entirely misses out the shades of grey inbetween J_Clavier Loic, you did that last year already loiclemeur could somebody go and get some big macs for me ? tara_ LOL 17:19 mcabiling 17inch loic ? Ewan_ changes nick to Ewan_away loiclemeur LE big mac rvr Tele pizzas maartens would like one too jy_ Loic, sausage? cfd Ze big mac loiclemeur sausage mmmmmmm maartens Or a Whopper.... antoin the internet is becoming like poetry. <- zeroday has disconnected (Connection timed out) jy_ How would you like your sausage? mung Or Rouleau de Printemps J_Clavier I am voting for factoryjoe to get the N90 - his Les Blogs 2.0/Canter mashup is a classic maartens Do they have Burger King in Paris? antoin a lot more people are writing than reading. dotBen rolls on floor loiclemeur with Ketchup please rodrigo can someone plesase design a banner with 'MMMMMmmmmm 2.0 conference' dotBen lol factoryjoe gily burger king no more tara_ Go Joe! loiclemeur can you please now let us concentrate on the session maartens :-P~~~ J_Clavier Hey you diverged loiclemeur (with a big Mac) tara_ too hungry now 17:20 -> peterkaminski has joined lesblogs weemac Sometimes I stand in the fish and chip shop queue, watching as the vinegar runs through, wishing I could buy suppoer for two. m-c aahhh stop, i'm getting hungry loiclemeur Jeff loiclemeur I SOOOO hungry NicoleS why? i thought there where to be podcast recordings, so we can concentrate on the backchannel m-c stoooooooooooooop! loiclemeur NicoleS good point ! maartens Better: I'm videoing this J_Clavier Moi aussi, j'ai la dalle jy_ 10 minutes more, and Loic sees 5 burgers talking on the scene loiclemeur hehe J_Clavier jy_++ maartens http://maartenschenk.be/video/lesblogs/ Geoff_ Just about to make some butternut squash soup.... -> neilmcintosh has joined lesblogs CharlesN Let's order pizza hut tara_ Like in the Looney Toons...a whole panel of burgers gily hot dogs panel 17:21 loiclemeur pizza hut suck loiclemeur sucks dotBen burger off maartens Video will be available there later... -> perfectpath has joined lesblogs m-c there should be popcorn next time loiclemeur some oysters maybe ? CharlesN yep but they deliver jy_ Fon should give away tapas gily yep, with muscadet jemstone pub sub govt is like http://www.theyworkforyou.com in the UK <- chryss has left lesblogs ("Leaving") loiclemeur 40000 inhabitants in Paris Geoff_ maybe get a food outfit to sponsor the event loiclemeur close to La Defense -> EZToms- has joined lesblogs 17:22 antoin does anyone have a link to this guy's site? jy_ He says Puteaux has 10 Mac donalds and 5 burger kings loiclemeur Christophe has been blogging for more than a year loiclemeur on how he hates the city mayor loiclemeur THOMAS YOU ROCK dotBen any fastfoof bloggers in the house? yannk maartens: be kind with the wifi guys maartens www.fastfoodweblog.nl dotBen fastfodo* -> oliverw has joined lesblogs fmahon http://www.monputeaux.com/ maartens not my site <- jstuker has disconnected (No route to host) yannk maartens: big video files does no good to the bandwidth maartens yannk: I'm not uploading them... maartens now maartens But later yannk maartens: upload or download 17:23 weemac This is the paper from the Puteaux mayor maartens I'm not downloading them either gily maarteens is n next to me and i can tell you he's eating AND uploading ant0ine Suw eating!!!!! maartens I wish I was eating... dotBen OUTRAGAOUS! Suw outrageous! weemac Ouiii! yannk slaps maartens <- xxx has disconnected (Nick collision from services.) yannk 17:24 maartens J_Clavier I used to live in Puteaux too - back in 1991 antoin it reminds me of http://www.edinburghsucks.com/ weemac Edinburgh DOES NOT suck! antoin well, if you like that kind of thing. rodrigo The fringe is great 17:25 weemac The rest is alright, too antoin sounds horribly corrupt to me. weemac Edinburgh? -> xxx has joined lesblogs antoin yeah. <- xxx has disconnected (Nick collision from services.) loiclemeur pizzas arrived JY ? gily Edinburger -> schickr has joined lesblogs jy_ Christophe will be Mayor in 5 years weemac Hope so 17:26 CharlesN Pizza finally tara_ where? jemstone this guy rocks gily yep maartens Does he have a day job with that? schickr democracy in action weemac Liberté, égalité, fraternité, réalité?! 17:27 schickr Et intimidation pforret who's video streaming there on the big screen? <- EZToms has disconnected (Connection timed out) J_Clavier That's on his site 17:28 jy_ Loic : Geraldine says no pizza, you should have eaten at lunch pforret what lunch? fmahon maartens: yes he has... he's working in a information and communication company perfectpath the lunch where nothing was bigger than my thumb <- oliverw has disconnected -> larcher has joined lesblogs maartens fmahon: does he have time to have a life outside this blog then? Suw nanolunch pforret don't be humble, your thumb is bigger 17:29 mung big mac banner online mung MMMmmmm J_Clavier You just had to eat a lot of thumbs! weemac http://www.mcdonalds.fr/ 17:30 tara_ yum thumbs! rodrigo http://www.alloresto.fr/alloresto/ jy_ Loic : skeeping lunch is nice to loose weight. oops <- ludoo has left lesblogs dotBen oooh, bitchy loiclemeur jy_ start this over again you'll see J_Clavier Cheap jy_ in general of course 17:31 dotBen what was the first queston? BenHammersley how close is this party tonight? rodrigo lesblogs is the HOTTEST tag in the ladst 24h on flickr... yannk remembers that everything in this backchannel is logged gily what was the second one ? loiclemeur is it ? loiclemeur where Rodrigo ? mcabiling http://www.bandt.com.au/news/89/0c015489.asp rodrigo http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/ mcabiling that would have been useful... peterkaminski 1. doesn't this interfere with your day job? maartens It has been since this morning already... schickr doesn't look like loïc's missed many lunches rvr Not yet in TEchnorati jy_ Ben : you only need to walk 1h30. factoryjoe j'ai faim maartens I remember blogging about it this morning BenHammersley metro, then... 17:32 weemac boulot, metro, resto, dodo peterkaminski 2. where are the opposition parties? they should be hassling the incumbents rodrigo by the way, also for the alst week rvr He, second hottest tag blogs & dogs :-/ BenHammersley is it a free bar? weemac open bar all night weemac Loic said BenHammersley really? dotBen open? loiclemeur NO PROMOTION weemac Are you not paying, Loic? loiclemeur FOR FRANCE WORKING 35 HOURS A WEEL loiclemeur a week weemac But you said...! 17:33 jemstone 35 hours. socialist governments and trade unions have created blogs pforret even if you speak english and french, both at the same time is sometimes hard loiclemeur Christophe is a member of the French socialist party dotBen they are sometime hard on their own. I have barely comprehended the art of speaking English tara_ What's for dinner? maartens And that 35 hours, that is the average. If it weren't for loic it would be lower! dotBen sassuage? perfectpath fingers dotBen hmmmm dotBen etc loiclemeur hehe 17:34 -> chrisheuer has joined lesblogs factoryjoe weemac: http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/70525009/ tara_ FactoryJoe strikes again J_Clavier clientelisme = nepotism ? <- _neezee has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <- perfectpath has left lesblogs maartens Loic does 35 hours a day antoin no clientelism is different. tara_ He SO deserves that phone chrisheuer good evening NicoleS changes nick to _neezee factoryjoe sup chrisheuer antoin it's about doing stuff for your consituents. Favours. _neezee so, loic wants some wiki things up: http://www.socialtext.net/loicwiki/member/index.cgi?write_down_your_favorite_quote antoin in ireland we call them 'strokes' chrisheuer still recovering - but kicking and screaming into the morning 17:35 chrisheuer long week _neezee go and enter your favorite quote from the conference Suw Can blogging really affect politics? Is it possible for bloggers to have real influence? Or is it just people talking to themselves? factoryjoe someone beat me to it dotBen long week, it's just monday -> photomatt_paris_ has joined lesblogs chrisheuer last week dotBen Suw, you are talking to yourself antoin well, citizen action on the internet can. antoin blogs are just part of it. schickr navel gazing factoryjoe schickr: burger gazing dotBen schicikr: and that's just the politicians maartens Well, blogs brought down the canadian government last week... maartens And Dan Rather factoryjoe (this, coming from the peschitarian amongst us) 17:36 maartens And Trent Lott antoin really? antoin canada i mean? <- fmahon has disconnected dotBen who's that ugly git Suw is Trent Lott just an isolated case, though? can this really have a long-lasting impact? <- sztahanov has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) chrisheuer conf still going on or are you all just keeping the conversation going? -> sztahanov has joined lesblogs maartens Wasn't the scandal it fell over originally brought out by a blogger that ignored a court gagging order? dotBen no, they are still talking dotBen despite this 17:37 dotBen that's the problem with "confersations" = too many comments chrisheuer I met an HR person from a tech co who said that blogs will be the end of sun, microsoft and IBM the other night <- tara_ has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) schickr blogging is pamphleting, politically. Martin luther did in papal bull. dotBen an HR person? how would she know mung MERRY CHRISTMAS mung p Suw wow, i'm starving 17:38 dotBen the 41st person isn't welcome chrisheuer basically, her take was that the people inside the big cos were giving away all this valuable stuff, like the projects they are on and who they work with and who is smart on the team weemac COMING NEXT: Ewan McGregor: http://edu.blogs.com/edublogs/2005/11/ewan_mcgregor_s.html factoryjoe Suw: ditto olivert your not alone Suw <- weemac has left lesblogs <- cfd has disconnected chrisheuer as a result, she has already nabbed 10 people from sun <- marc-o has disconnected -> tara_ has joined lesblogs neilmcintosh you're all going to be very disappointed. And I can say that as his brother. <- felixpetersen has disconnected dglazkov chrisheuer: she does not get it <- i-sams has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) chrisheuer the point is, she is looking at the world from her own POV, the narrow, specialized POV instead of seeing the bigger picture 17:39 chrisheuer no - she does not get it dotBen chrisheuer - no one's got me (yet) dglazkov blogging is globalization chrisheuer but she is like a lot of people out there, so I am glad to have had that conversation dltq i still dont have my planet of mongolian blogs written in English -> cfd has joined lesblogs chrisheuer BTW - like the confersation term DOTBEN 17:40 dotBen too much conferring -> winski has joined lesblogs <- photomatt_paris_ has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) -> Ton has joined lesblogs dotBen wtf dltq chrisheuer slight correction i think - blogging is a part of democratized globalization, where people can participate in the big show directly rather than through intermediaries <- larcher has left lesblogs chrisheuer or rather it is an enabler 17:41 Ton changes nick to TonWes factoryjoe i wish there was a nap room dltq untill the chinese create their own internet, and then iran, and then syria factoryjoe sup TonWes chrisheuer so what would you say to someone who came up with that argument - about losing talent? I did poorly at best... tara_ snack and nap dotBen factoryjoe - so does Marc C winski naproom = hotel room +wifi. dglazkov she will lose them to somebody else just as easily <- TonWes has disconnected (Client Quit) tara_ when is dinner? dotBen blogs in education kinda = nap room 17:42 chrisheuer loi chrisheuer lol tara_ comfy chairs maartens Yes, the room is emptying out... dotBen winski, at least your hotel room has wifi tara_ I'm afraid of the flickrization factor, tho peterkaminski yeah, factoryjoe, just take a nap in your chair dotBen mine doesn't even had cable bandwidth! chrisheuer come on, make a good photo op, fall asleep dotBen comfy chairs, warm room, soothing talking... zzzzzzz 17:43 mung and MMMmmm <- photomatt_paris has disconnected (No route to host) _neezee does somebody know the metro station of the dinner? mung Oper mcabiling One of the most interesting aspects of power in relation to increasing flows of information might be called the "paradox of plenty". A plentitude of information leads to a poverty of attention. Attention becomes the scarce resource and those who can distinguish valuable signal from white noise gain power. .... Power does not necessarily flow to those who can produce or withold information but to th mcabiling ose who can verify it. - Harvard professor Joseph S. Nye Jr mung Opera -> weemac has joined lesblogs mung Métro : Opera dglazkov is jealous nikolajn opera on #3 dotBen can anyone point me to the pic of Adriana with her gun? gily it's straight from here gily on 3 weemac give us some time 17:44 dglazkov somebody send me a postcard from Paris chrisheuer mcabling: --> nice point - reason why so many people powered search sites have popped up lately mung www.mappy.fr to get a map with the address AndreasHaugstrup http://www.mediainfluencer.net/ factoryjoe wow AndreasHaugstrup dotBen: scroll down factoryjoe getting professors on plazes will be nuts gily http://www.ratp.fr/ weemac plazes? gily subway map 17:45 factoryjoe weemac: seriously? weemac what's a plaze when it comes up and says hello? gily are we back in university ? chrisheuer plazes is location awareness built into your laptop so you can tell the world where you are dotBen co blogging with the co eds! chrisheuer or desktop weemac like geotagging - or the same thing 17:46 dglazkov www.capital.edu olivert only one other person in plazes though here in the room <- sztahanov has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) tara_ I am 17:47 <- _neezee has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) neilmcintosh no competition? Plenty in Britain - two swathes of new Universities in the last 30 years... antoin ?whois tara jibot Nobody has defined tara yet weemac tonnes of competition tara_ missrogue dglazkov speaking of universities, one of the first to put real (no moderation, comments, etc.) blogs on their homepage olivert weemac: You geotag the mac address of the internet access point you are using, and whenever you sign in there the systme knows where you are olivert I tara weemac At the end of the day unis are businesses -> _neezee has joined lesblogs 17:48 weemac poor ones at that _neezee i am actually quite irritated, that my small little irc clients gets messed up so much *wonder* chrisheuer tara is the free beer drinking spark of the brat pack chrisheuer pforret make your own LesBlogs logo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pforret/70528472/ tara_ my legacy continues chrisheuer <--- fanning the story that never dies gily a brit pack ? tara_ Brat Pack 2.0! mung _neezee : mac or pc? chrisheuer world denomination 17:49 chrisheuer tara - have you been to maison du chocolat yet? <- AndreasHaugstrup has left lesblogs _neezee mung i will not answer that question beause it does ont belong to that subject tara_ http://www.flickr.com/groups/bratpack/ chrisheuer if you do, please do get me just a little... http://www.lamaisonduchocolat.com/ _neezee oh!° _neezee chocolat! tara_ haven't been to that maison tara_ I'm into tarts chrisheuer amazing chocolate shop up - find locations from the web site CharlesN Tara, u definitely should go there 17:50 tara_ do I appear to be a chocolate lover? chrisheuer ah - lots of tarts in Paris.... <- cliebert has disconnected tara_ yep -> NicoleS has joined lesblogs tara_ I had a cheap blond or two last night chrisheuer still a big fan of the nutella crepes in the latin quarter NicoleS they have an english site, i like them already 17:51 CharlesN they're worldwide <- factoryjoe has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) dltq omg i miss the latin quarter and their crepes.. gily that was my lunch as a student pforret academics fear to expose themselves? BenHammersley I have to say that most blogs are nons BenHammersley nonsense tara_ I've met some academics that are more than happy to expose themselves BenHammersley even BenHammersley business blogs doubly so 17:52 mung depends on countries dglazkov so what? antoin i don't think that's what tara meant. -> ethanz has joined lesblogs jibot ethanz is usually in western MA, USA. blogs at http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethan and spends most of his time thinking about Africa or bacon. mung and culture chrisheuer what was scoble's phrasing on this - about being beyond human in them or something like that peterkaminski does facebook do blogs? BenHammersley scoble is beyond human? -> factoryjoe has joined lesblogs dglazkov no BenHammersley that explains a lot tara_ human ++ gily super animal 17:53 antoin scoble is the immaculate offspring of bill gates. dglazkov this conversation is mostly nonsense. Doesn't diminish its quality, right? ethanz nonsense ++ dltq BS is good for the evolution of mankind gily scoble is even acting in Rock academy <- rs_ has disconnected 17:54 mung at least they act BenHammersley scoble will be played by The Rock in the movie of this conference chrisheuer my cleaning lady brought her child this morning so i set her up with the disney channel - I just heard Donald Duck say "Write me an email" - how surreal factoryjoe they so should have used drupal 17:55 BenHammersley I'd have thought Donald Duck was more an IM man chrisheuer I guess the internet is beyond 'pervasive'.... -> surfnode_ has joined lesblogs 17:56 <- surfnode has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) surfnode_ changes nick to surfnode -> vowe has joined lesblogs 17:57 tara_ Joe: who? Donald Duck? <- jemstone has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) factoryjoe yes mung great idea 17:58 NicoleS hi volker vowe sssh NicoleS *gg* NicoleS points out that vowe is spreading the rumour we would have 300 power plugs here pforret at how many Watts per plug? 17:59 NicoleS the consumption of power would be interesting too, besides the wifi yannk this room is the biggest micro wave owen ever yannk s/owen/oven neilmcintosh ping! vowe i understand you had too many machines for the wifi cloud? 18:00 tara_ sleeeeepy tara_ toasty mung good night tara_ nite <- ant0ine has disconnected ("This computer has gone to sleep") <- olivert has disconnected chrisheuer wheres termie btw tara_ good question gily get into local habits : bonne nuit 18:01 chrisheuer sleeping somewhere? eating somewhere? tara_ Joe? factoryjoe ? BenHammersley why does he speak funny? weemac http://edu.blogs.com/edublogs/2005/11/ewan_mcgregor_s.html dotBen Lloyd davis does Suw i thought that was Lloyd who exposed himself on his blog? dotBen he exposes himself neilmcintosh damned scotch accent BenHammersley that blokes incomprehensible! dotBen on this blog NicoleS well, they will at first have problems understanding him factoryjoe hugh macintosh == irish? <- Les has disconnected (Success) BenHammersley lol BenHammersley och aye factoryjoe oh Suw god, no, it's a damn sexy accent factoryjoe scottish rodrigo he does have a wee accent neilmcintosh can you understand him? ethanz scots, not irish NicoleS praises mark hunter from the tartan podcast to 'train' me on that tara_ totally gily love is accent 18:02 tara_ hot factoryjoe where's ur utilitkilt? BenHammersley has the horn for the accent neilmcintosh he's my brother and I still can't make out a word dotBen Suw will sleep with anyone who gets on stage> factoryjoe his wee willy what? maartens What! gily even for a straight guy -> martinvars has joined lesblogs NicoleS only when he has a great accent or what? tara_ I don't even care what he's saying maartens And he didn't ask us to come! dotBen feels he may have just crossed the line tara_ I just don't want him to stop rodrigo saint mungo is shocked mung at least u guys awa mung ke Suw don't look!! NicoleS well i am satisfied if the voice is 'tasty' Suw just don't look!! BenHammersley yooo take the higgggggh roadddd rodrigo I want some IRN BRU BenHammersley and I'll takkeee the loooowwww road 18:03 cfd looking for someone? maartens Seems this voice is waking up quite some people... factoryjoe when i close my eyes, i keep hearing a skinny shrek dotBen the word och eye? BenHammersley he's better than the bloody french, you have to admit dotBen true martinvars scottish fonero? tara_ I see something entirely different when I close mine Suw see, you can't beat a good Scottish accent NicoleS cool, you can see he is a teacher - read on and still watch everything else. dotBen <--- proud to be an IBM Thinkpad'er NicoleS you should hear him talk french cfd Lenovo maartens I keep picturing groundskeeper Willy... tara_ hubba hubba dotBen stop it chrisheuer alright guys - stay out of trouble and have fun - will check back in tomorrow afternoon with you all to talk more about blogs in an international light (and chocolate of course) dotBen poor wee chap tara_ now you killed it for me 18:04 tara_ totally gone factoryjoe chrisheuer: yeah right tara_ the moment is dead Suw chocolate? did someone mention chocolate? NicoleS tara close your eyes again . rodrigo it anyone podcasting this ? it's going to be my favourite intro ! dotBen Suw will do anything for chocolate and vodka maartens I'm videocasting it... maartens http://maartenschenk.be/video/lesblogs/ NicoleS suw yes, a full house of it maartens Video will be up later tara_ Ack...willy! factoryjoe people like me CharlesN yeah podcast dotBen obsecene comment is great, shit face factoryjoe being cheesy J_Clavier he totally rocks rodrigo maartens : we should talk with a scotch in hand tonight BenHammersley The namesh Bond -> Salim has joined lesblogs 18:05 -> TonWes has joined lesblogs -> Les_Blogs has joined lesblogs Les_Blogs changes nick to Les J_Clavier Rodrigo> indeed NicoleS well, the irish weren't bad either jy_ scotch accent sounds like they speak on a bad GSM phone line, i miss half of the words tara_ pooooshing dotBen Ben, you is a native Jock boy, too, no? -> ant0ine has joined lesblogs rodrigo Sco-tland invented power right ? or was that James Watt ! ? NicoleS jy you just have to try better BenHammersley changes nick to BonniePrinceChar factoryjoe shrek: http://flickr.com/photos/hartnupj/68616156/ -> jemstone has joined lesblogs surfnode and the telephone tara_ sex apart? dotBen I bet their highspeed internet cost less that â?¬17k BonniePrinceChar changes nick to WilliamWallace tara_ dirty boy dotBen unlike htis confernece 18:06 WilliamWallace FREEDOMMMMMMMM gily sex apart is a new sitcom neilmcintosh dotBen - have you seen BT's prices? factoryjoe DONKEY!! rodrigo rob roy ! NicoleS sex apart - ist that what we call ldr now? <- EZToms- has disconnected (Connection timed out) J_Clavier Brave Heart WilliamWallace good question! tara_ Donkey ... totally maartens I'm getting paid to be here... dotBen what's with the donkey, I don't get it? factoryjoe um WilliamWallace autistic group think? tara_ why ARE we here? factoryjoe *crickets* 18:07 NicoleS talk. don't read ewan! tara_ Shrek! maartens (disclaimer: I work for Six Apart) gily we are not here for food gily for sure NicoleS CONCENTRATE EWAN! WilliamWallace we're only here for the beer dotBen eye, it's ya' wee broo'ther tara_ Maartens: you work for Sex Apart maartens hehe ethanz tough to be the last speaker of the day... just a very long day and hard to keep the audience at this point... rodrigo Nokia is offering a bottle of Lagavulin ! jy_ Sex Pad, MovableSex ?! oh no. chrisheuer last thought - http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisheuer/70287317/ Suw top down and bottom up at the same time Suw now *there's* a thought -> manoupaz has joined lesblogs NicoleS i thought sex was moveable in design? dotBen Suw, you have a one track mind maartens LiveCamJournal... 18:08 dltq sex? dotBen like this conference (single track) tara_ Bottoms up to sex apart! Suw dotBen: no no, you're just projecting WilliamWallace rah dotBen what is this "projecting"? chrisheuer g'nite <- _neezee has disconnected (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) tara_ Blog responsibly <- chrisheuer has disconnected WilliamWallace he's good neilmcintosh god no - not a national sport. look at what happened with the football dotBen yes, use a condom when blogging maartens Don't drink and blog, for example... WilliamWallace he was good, he was mung EWAN : do you lobbying your vision abroad? weemac cheers tara_ Ewan rocks WilliamWallace APPLAUDE YOU BASTARDS Suw Ewan++ gily yep weemac tara - see you for a drink later maartens + rodrigo you're the man maartens +++ Suw Ewan, can you just talk some more please 18:09 J_Clavier Did I hear condom in blogging ? jemstone best speaker today apart from christophe the mayor regulator Suw don't mind what you say gily big up factoryjoe suw++ dotBen It's awful, isn't. Awful chatters <- mark_hu has disconnected (Success) RMacK yeah if you blog irresponsibly, when they apply for their 1st job, and their prospective employers google them, it could be interesting.. NicoleS just talk and let the sweet voice bring up ideas on other things ... *gg* <- martinvars has disconnected WilliamWallace changes nick to BenHammersley tara_ Other things rock factoryjoe school is so p0wned Suw We would never go of and do other things Suw oh no Suw never ever ever. Suw *cough* tara_ other things other things other things BenHammersley take a wee? tara_ DRINK! BenHammersley on stage? BenHammersley dear lord man! dotBen eye CharlesN smore question to ewan maartens If chatting and surfing was allowed in the class, the kids would fact check the teacher with google... 18:10 rodrigo like in the wee hours... J_Clavier Stop it for heaven's sake dotBen Ben, we'll be doing this for you when you wear your skirt! sorry, kilt factoryjoe the teachers would have it as bad as the journalists and politicians NicoleS changes nick to NicoleSimon Suw ooooh yes. the skirt. maartens We're logging IP adresses... BenHammersley copyright protection in Scotland is a wee drm afore ye go NicoleSimon we don't need synonyms to talk about us tara_ oh, you don't think we'd say it in front of other people? dotBen YEAH - Hammer's in da skirt NicoleSimon (just got used to me nick) dotBen BenJammersley++ NicoleSimon changes nick to _neezee RMacK multitasking+++ 18:11 Suw hammersley, can you do a scottish accent tomorrow? BenHammersley of coursh peterkaminski it'd go with the skirt dotBen Action man ben (sadly not me) weemac wear the skirt Hammersley! Suw Your besht Shean Connery? _neezee suw well, he sounds better through a telefon, don't mind the accent BenHammersley I will factoryjoe DONKEY: Ooh, Shrek, did you do that? Man, you gotta warn somebody before you just crack one off. My mouth was open and everything. factoryjoe SHREK: Believe me, donkey, if it was me, you'd be dead. It is brimstone. We must be getting close. dotBen can you put on a lady's acent? Like the funny people from Little Britain? <- manoupaz has disconnected (Client Quit) factoryjoe DONKEY: Yeah right, brimstone. Don't be talking about no brimstone. I know what I smell and it was no brimstone. It come off no stone either. tara_ We are! cfd tara_ We are multi-listeners 18:12 tara_ sex weeks dotBen BLOGGING IS ALL ABOUT CONVERSATION. AND THIS IS CONVERSATION. job done BenHammersley I am a laaaady, you know. With my lady's blog, and my lady's gloves... factoryjoe my add is happily fed tara_ he's killing me _neezee and multi drinkers? _neezee BenHammersley and you lady clothes. RMacK they have "sex week" at SCHOOL over there?? <- m-c has disconnected RMacK Suw ooh, no pressure then 18:13 BenHammersley that's a great point weemac yes weemac we do BenHammersley Mr Mc is top dotBen RMack: yeah - the practical lessons are fantastic <- mung has disconnected ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]") factoryjoe of course, they can't keep up weemac come on...! gily polychronic ? mcabiling by the way is there going to be a compilation of all the ppt's during the conf ? mcabiling in PDF ? factoryjoe mutlidimensional conversation is where it's at weemac we talk about emotions, and feelings, and... factoryjoe hello, video games? RMacK thouht we were being censored for a moment there.. weemac PPts will be burnt in a ceremony later tonioght J_Clavier I will put up my preso and Om's video tara_ oh yes please 18:14 <- antoin has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) mcabiling thanks jef _neezee jeff that would be great. dotBen OMs video, omg dotBen Another great advert for skype. pforret asynchronous, like in ... email? dotBen in addition to having their app shut down on the network here J_Clavier And you guys have not seen the unedited version Suw weemac: how do you deal with information overload for kids though? or do they deal with it better than us (where 'us' = 'me')? dotBen really getting max vaue from their sponsorship factoryjoe J_Clavier: where? J_Clavier My lap factoryjoe whoa J_Clavier top J_Clavier laptop tara_ huh? factoryjoe what's om doing in your lap factoryjoe top? weemac they don't know the meaning of overload 18:15 mcabiling lol rodrigo who taped the unedited version of Om's video ? peterkaminski different people overload different ways factoryjoe physical == virtual factoryjoe whoa J_Clavier s/laptop/laptop/g weemac I don't get the question factoryjoe hey, i think i just saw a glitch in the matrix J_Clavier Rodrigo's the man J_Clavier with the lap J_Clavier top jy_ wow Jeff is a geek rodrigo and the camera... tara_ whoduvthunkit? Suw so they don't get swamped by information? 18:16 peterkaminski factoryjoe, we were using too many cpu cycles there J_Clavier I used to develop in vi with home grown macros that made emacs sissies jaleous tara_ whoah ethanz I'm sure you typed uphill both ways in the snow, J_Clavier... tara_ I all of a sudden see you in a whole new light mcabiling rodrigo : http://forevergeek.com/gadgets/dell_releasing_a_30_lcd.php mcabiling hehe <- Salim has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) peterkaminski suw, some get overloaded really easy, others are bored unless there's way too much going on 18:17 rodrigo identity 2.0: sxip.com Suw that makes sense factoryjoe yeah education seems ready to be rethunk schickr jeff, programming is overrated. I say folks to use vi. J_Clavier ethanz> I take it you were using emacs factoryjoe rodrigo: if only it were open source factoryjoe hohum 18:18 gily beer time ethanz still am, J_Clavier... but I don't hold it against you... gily oups, last question dltq have fun tonight see you tomorrow dltq i will go eat some norwegian reindeer now Suw or just a norgwegian J_Clavier much respect, I am now using outlook, ecto and blogjet schickr i mean 'pay' folks. damn t9 peterkaminski factoryjoe almost had enough going on there to have fun when we were all going on there a few minutes ago dltq or - yeah :> rodrigo some background stuff on open ID systems: http://rodrigo.typepad.com/english/2005/09/what_is_my_digi.html 18:19 peterkaminski otoh, i work with people that have to sit with their backs to the screen if there's anything interactive like SubEtha or IRC going on KevinMarks as opposed to open id and ego systems, like this channel? peterkaminski (just a couple people, not everybody) but otoh, they're really good at long-term attention 18:20 dotBen http://flickr.com/photos/dotben/70538882/ rvr re Kevin ethanz I'm sure jibot could be programmed to be an open superego system if we did some customization... <- surfnode has disconnected ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") weemac roll on the boozed! weemac booze or boozed? peterkaminski loic calls time, day's over schickr Pizza. Finger size! rvr ethanz: lol 18:21 -> m-c has joined lesblogs schickr Bye. See all you pc types later. My thumbs are killing. <- YmeBosma has disconnected factoryjoe ciao weemac Is it rude to get off the podium to get some pizza NOW??? <- schickr has left lesblogs ("Tchau") _neezee till later factoryjoe freeloader! <- _neezee has disconnected gily bye weemac hehe Suw weemac: not at all <- gily has left lesblogs Suw come give us a dose of your lovely accent <- pforret has disconnected 18:22 ethanz weemac - you need to find the dinner if you want someone to feed you... <- m-c has disconnected (Client Quit) weemac I know where it is - I'm just shy ethanz hence the importance of the map... dglazkov is going to grab some lunch. Don't talk about anything important for the next few hours Suw 'shy' he says, sitting in front of a few hundred people -> m-c has joined lesblogs weemac see you there! 18:23 factoryjoe dglazkov: drink time <- neilmcintosh has disconnected <- cfd has disconnected <- weemac has disconnected ("The computer fell asleep") <- TonWes has disconnected ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") <- tara_ has left lesblogs <- mcabiling has disconnected (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") <- loiclemeur has disconnected Disconnected from chat 09:07 Joining chat room... Started talking in lesblogs on teisipäev 06.12.2005 09:07:42 Room topic is: Official backchannel || tag: lesblogs 09:08 -> loiclemeur has joined lesblogs 09:09 -> jemstone has joined lesblogs 09:11 <- loiclemeur has disconnected (Client Quit) 09:14 -> problog has joined lesblogs 09:16 <- bunnywabbit_ has disconnected 09:17 -> antoin has joined lesblogs jibot antoin is in Ireland and blogging at http://www.eire.com/ and on fon and always welcomed in the great DPRK 09:21 -> cliebert has joined lesblogs -> JSG has joined lesblogs cliebert hello 09:28 -> tixx has joined lesblogs -> oliverwagner has joined lesblogs 09:29 oliverwagner good morning 09:30 KevinMarks morning tixx good morning everybody 09:32 KevinMarks any sign of an Av feed today? 09:33 -> patrickt has joined lesblogs 09:34 -> problog_ has joined lesblogs <- problog has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:35 problog_ changes nick to problog 09:36 tixx I haven't found anything 09:37 -> loiclemeur has joined lesblogs -> pforret has joined lesblogs cliebert so, who's gonna sleep in the room today ? 09:38 <- loiclemeur has disconnected (Client Quit) -> GeoffJones has joined lesblogs 09:39 -> Lanfeust21 has joined lesblogs 09:40 -> znarf has joined lesblogs jibot znarf is in Paris and can be found at http://upian.net/znarf/ Lanfeust21 www.frappr.com/lesblogs register yourself on the map -> olivert has joined lesblogs -> loiclemeur has joined lesblogs 09:41 tixx changes nick to Tiziano -> mcabiling has joined lesblogs mcabiling g'morning oliverwagner morning 09:42 Tiziano I've just added myself to the map -> cyf has joined lesblogs GeoffJones morning all 09:43 Lanfeust21 www.frappr.com/lesblogs register yourself on the map (thanks Tiziano <- Tiziano has left lesblogs -> marc-o has joined lesblogs 09:44 <- oliverwagner has disconnected 09:45 -> wavestorm has joined lesblogs -> maartens has joined lesblogs jemstone good morning to all 09:46 Lanfeust21 hi GeoffJones -> fmahon has joined lesblogs -> J_Clavier has joined lesblogs maartens hehe jemstone she's not very good is she 09:47 J_Clavier Good morning boys and girls GeoffJones hi Lanfuest J_Clavier you betcha! maartens Heard the one about the Rabi, the cowboy and the priest? -> oliverwagner has joined lesblogs -> m-c has joined lesblogs -> dotBen__ has joined lesblogs dotBen__ changes nick to dotBen -> YmeBosma has joined lesblogs -> sztahanov has joined lesblogs -> cfd has joined lesblogs J_Clavier Oh, I would -> weemac has joined lesblogs rvr Good morning 09:48 -> Alavanris has joined lesblogs mcabiling we've got jibot to record our lines -> marccanter has joined lesblogs jibot marccanter is Marc Canter & a fine singer & blogs at http://blogs.it/0100198/ & Mimi's Daddy & the father of multimedia & in the house & curious maartens http://www.blogherald.com/2005/11/18/mena-trott-defends-spamming/ seefeld_away changes nick to seefeld Lanfeust21 www.frappr.com/lesblogs register yourself on the map maartens That's also something related to this... maartens Ah <- seefeld has left lesblogs 09:49 cfd http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/ -> perfectpath has joined lesblogs <- marccanter has disconnected (Client Quit) -> TonWes has joined lesblogs 09:50 <- dotBen has disconnected (Remote closed the connection) -> marccanter has joined lesblogs -> dotBen__ has joined lesblogs dotBen__ changes nick to dotBen 09:51 marccanter yo yo yo J_Clavier Hey Marc dotBen big up, man perfectpath morning ben, how's yer head? dotBen you "fine singer" - see Joi ain't always right dotBen lol <- cliebert has disconnected <- fmahon has disconnected dotBen hey not bad thanks lloyd -> peterkaminski has joined lesblogs -> fmahon has joined lesblogs fmahon re dotBen didn't hit the sack till 3:30am 09:52 perfectpath hey you shouldn't hit the sack, just lie down gently -> neilmcintosh has joined lesblogs perfectpath that's where the headache comes from dotBen what is this talk actually about? I'm still not really geting it.. don't let your PR firm f' up? 09:53 wavestorm dotBen is it about fashion? perfectpath it's about being nice dotBen lol wavestorm oh perfectpath y'know more american mcabiling it's about your bad manners guys cfd "don't be evil"... jemstone have a nice day wavestorm are bloggers evil? dotBen yeah, this is someone telling a bunch of europeans "don't be like americans" (ducks) cfd Google must have invested in SixApart. perfectpath all the one's i know are 09:54 cfd (how to start a rumor) -> jyri has joined lesblogs perfectpath anyone want to form the League of Evil Bloggers? maartens I guess some people just don't want to be nice... dotBen puts his hand up maartens Why isn't the backchannel on screen? dotBen me never nice dotBen not clapping wavestorm f34r... 09:55 perfectpath I'm always nice irl -> alaz has joined lesblogs perfectpath but sometimes I can be a bit naughty on my blog peterkaminski another way she said it was not to say something online you wouldn't say f2f marccanter here here shel dotBen ooooh perfectpath ooooch 09:56 peterkaminski so you're okay, dotBen dotBen the internet is just like society - it's a mix. And they'll always be wankers like me 09:57 dotBen we all ignore Jeremy Lanfeust21 www.frappr.com/lesblogs register yourself on the map cfd http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/005687.html 09:58 -> ivan has joined lesblogs dotBen surely blogs are conversations. if you have nasty comments in real life... jemstone in the UK 5 million people read richard littlejohn every week weemac So is she saying that it's OK to speak behind people's back?? 09:59 ivan changes nick to o4media weemac Is blogging not a great opportunity to get people having constructive conversations? dotBen all I'm getting here is "be nice, people". I'll let my own "Jimminy Cricket" (to use yesterday's analagy) decide on that,thanks maartens True... I'm sure Jeremy's reputation suffered more than KTA's reputation... peterkaminski it's a great place to have both constructive and destructive conversations rvr changes room topic to: Official backchannel || tag: lesblogs || lesblogs.typepad.com || Planet: lesblogs.webdosbeta.net || Add you to map: www.frappr.com/lesblogs 10:00 marccanter I've justs uggested that 6A put out some guidelines..... <- Alavanris has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) peterkaminski and also, putting blogs in context more for the rest of the world mcabiling and what's his point ? weemac US High School students made up their own rules for blogging - it's just common sense: http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/mfle/creativeteaching/blogging/responsibilityinblogging.asp 10:01 cfd here too... mcabiling eula's for blogs ? mcabiling eeuurgh dotBen commenting Ts & Cs? dotBen this is crap weemac Yeah patrickt ii think that's part of her point, it's so quick to post some people forget their common sense wavestorm mcabiling creative commons dotBen seriously, I'm being my usual jokey self, but I almost find this patronising 10:02 weemac But in REAL life you have to work / speak with people who you don't like cfd http://carnets.opossum.ca/mario/archives/2003/08/code_de_deontol.html patrickt some people need some patronising problog bonjour dotBen oh really? dotBen HERE HERE 10:03 KevinMarks Kottke begged to be patronised <- jemstone has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) rvr Hi Kevin maartens Yes KevinMarks hi victor dotBen yeah comes down to "don't think/say nasty thing" -> doransky has joined lesblogs maartens Say nasty things... if you want to take responsability for them J_Clavier KevinMarks++ KevinMarks need any help identifying suw? rvr There is no technical solution for a social problem like trolling maartens People can perfectly be nasty online, if they are willing to stand behind it 10:04 maartens Like with the Sony DRM rootkit flap -> andrewma has joined lesblogs neilmcintosh rvr: but there are technological means that could help KevinMarks how is sony relevant? dotBen this is bullshit maartens People were being very nasty against Sony online neilmcintosh comment handling in MT, for instance, doesn't help. At all. KevinMarks that was a massive breach of trust, nto rudeness maartens But they deserved it KevinMarks ah rvr neilmcintosh: You can make it harder but there is no solution KevinMarks oh yes 10:05 rvr neilmcintosh: But it that way, you will also make it harder for good commenters -> factoryjoe has joined lesblogs cfd My phone number is: +1 418 261 3642 rvr neilmcintosh: Do you want us to implement Slashcode's comment system? maartens And I think if you're being nasty against people who don't deserve it, people will pick that up and think less of you antoin rvr: where are you? come and say hello later. neilmcintosh not if comment handling post publication is better -> tara has joined lesblogs neilmcintosh if it's better than MT, yes please rvr KevinMarks http://www.corante.com/many/archives/2004/11/06/the_tragedy_of_the_comments.php 10:06 rvr antoin Near Dave Sifry <- factoryjoe has disconnected (Client Quit) antoin where is he? i am on mena's side of the stage 5 rows back -> jemstone has joined lesblogs mcabiling baaaaad dotben 10:07 rvr In Barraputo (the Spanish Slashdot) we raised the default level to 1 because of trolls recently -> factoryjoe has joined lesblogs rvr Some people says that anonymous is used often for trolling KevinMarks i've read /. at 3 for years KevinMarks well, disposable accounts work too weemac that's life: in real life many people DON'T have a thick skin. Is blogging just for thugs? -> Alavanris has joined lesblogs rvr KevinMarks: bugmenot 10:08 cfd is he interesting? <- doransky has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:09 -> nandabresil has joined lesblogs -> Ton_Zijlstra has joined lesblogs jibot Ton_Zijlstra is Ton from Enschede, Netherlands at http://www.zylstra.org/blog and deemed a geek by his partner Ton_Zijlstra g'morning all -> ant0ine has joined lesblogs <- ant0ine has disconnected (Client Quit) JaanusSkype w00t w00t.. this is good stuff. someone said yesterday there was too little discussion and controversy. that it was just about "how nice we all and blogs are". now this is shaping up. mcabiling googlefight tara I don't recall anyone having a problem with six apart? factoryjoe JaanusSkype++ 10:10 KevinMarks haha perfectpath dotBen++ KevinMarks tara is new arounf these parts -> ant0ine has joined lesblogs Lanfeust21 www.frappr.com/lesblogs register your blog on the map perfectpath this is a cultural issue peterkaminski so the real question: dotBen, are you an asshole in real life? -> jstuker has joined lesblogs perfectpath there are assumptions flying around here about what 'polite' is maartens I'll post this chat log online maartens 10:11 tara Dotben rocks factoryjoe dotBen has opinions patrickt "roll with the punches" some of the stuff she is complaining about is the equivalent of punching some random person on the street because you don't like their shirt, not the same thing perfectpath assumptions that we all agree on what 'civil' means jemstone dotben is one of the most passionate and constructive contributors to this "community" i have met. Yeah he's a dick but its all done with wit, honesty and he will engage with people to their face. its unfair that he's been accused like this 10:12 -> crosswick has joined lesblogs tara maybe we are taking everything WAY too seriously? rvr Don't feed the trolls peterkaminski i don't know that he's been accused of anything except being snarky peterkaminski which is true perfectpath I don't think the American Revolutionary War was a very civil way of carrying on tara Snark is disruptive, not personal 10:13 dotBen btw I'm quite nice in real life perfectpath oh god, I'm trolling, someone stop me please peterkaminski dotBen I just bite when people get my back up marccanter me too - and I play one in a Soap Opera peterkaminski i had a great conversation with dotBen last night -> doransky has joined lesblogs dotBen also, we'd all agree there's appropriateness in terms of what the forum is marccanter just spell my name correctly! J_Clavier so did I KevinMarks ?whois dotBen peterkaminski "passionate and constructive" is a good way to describe him jibot Nobody has defined dotBen yet dotBen dotBen is Ben Metcalfe 10:14 -> i-sams has joined lesblogs marccanter and a very nice guy I may so myself! KevinMarks ?learn dotBen is Ben Metcalfe jibot dotBen is Ben Metcalfe <- jemstone has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) neilmcintosh I thought dotben/Ben Matcalfe had a good point factoryjoe well, now we're cookin' with gas neilmcintosh And if you don't like backchannels, don't talk at conferences which have them tara now THAT was a session! cfd you wouldn't believe it, but he has a thing called a blog: Ben Metcalfe 10:15 cfd http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ peterkaminski and of course, Mena is passionate and constructive, too weemac wish I had podcast that weemac Think it might be censored? problog RSS ! maartens http://maartenschenk.be/video/lesblogs/ maartens I'll upload the video there later... weemac yeah!!! problog joe : great pictures =)) dotBen Shel: "who is this dotBen - show yourself"!!! lol KevinMarks ?learn dotBen is blogging at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ jibot dotBen is Ben Metcalfe and blogging at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ -> treb has joined lesblogs 10:16 factoryjoe problog: you mean me? factoryjoe or the other joe? <- Alavanris has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) factoryjoe did she say neat? tara swell marccanter Oh ah -- Factory Joe - he's the guy who mashed me up yesterday KevinMarks cna you give us remote chaps abit more of hint as to wtf is being talked about? 10:17 mcabiling rss peterkaminski kevinmarks, we just seated the next panel mcabiling feeds marccanter let's talk about RSS again............... factoryjoe marccanter: i've never been personally mashed up 10:18 maartens Louder... factoryjoe so thanks for providing me source material factoryjoe factoryjoe KevinMarks: you missed the celebrity deathmatch rvr KevinMarks: Right now syndication i-sams can we get Ben's comments on the BBC as he works for them and runs backstage now this would make the news. marccanter factoryjjoe: just spell my name right 10:19 marccanter and shine my head with proper lubricant <- doransky has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) neilmcintosh pointing out we've just been patronised at a blog conference isn't news, alas. -> jemstone has joined lesblogs <- i-sams has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -> i-sams_ has joined lesblogs i-sams_ changes nick to i-sams olivert changes nick to oliverthylmann mcabiling feedburner++ wavestorm louder ... 10:20 -> Alavanris has joined lesblogs maartens Can someone on stage ask the speakers to talk into the microphones? problog yes pls LOUDER m-c louder! maartens Thank you! JaanusSkype cool thats better KevinMarks now you know how i feel Lanfeust21 www.frappr.com/lesblogs register your blog on the map KevinMarks can someone ichat or skype me in? perfectpath heh heh he said arse tara no skype 10:21 KevinMarks RSS is offically pronounced 'arse' <- Ton_Zijlstra has left lesblogs -> Ton_Zijlstra has joined lesblogs dotBen thinks carefully about how he'll be summing up the conference for his colleagues back at work... 10:22 perfectpath http://www.perfectpath.co.uk/archives/000247.html factoryjoe microformats cfd maybe you are now more than a z-list blogger... factoryjoe yeah, it's "arse" KevinMarks a bit mroe context please, chris 10:23 factoryjoe KevinMarks: the question was "what is the future of rss over the next year" rvr KevinMarks: They are talking about what's the next big thing in syndication -> CharlesN has joined lesblogs -> winsk has joined lesblogs factoryjoe the point being made: "rss is going to disappear" KevinMarks yes, microformats factoryjoe marccanter said "hear hear" peterkaminski plumbing++ perfectpath I wish my rss would disappear 10:24 factoryjoe hmm, now it's "opml will get bigger" cfd is this Voip? sounds like it. KevinMarks shouldn't have ahd it tatooed factoryjoe "localize arse feeds" CharlesN Sophie Kuhn sur iTV ce matin yannk Agreed, the sound isn't very good 10:25 factoryjoe i-arse now factoryjoe "individualized arse" factoryjoe the softler, gentler side of arse KevinMarks arse about face? perfectpath i can't get enough of these arse jokes keep 'em coming factoryjoe perfectpath: phew, i thought it might be to early for snark <- Alavanris has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10:26 factoryjoe i mean man, it got hot in heyar perfectpath yeah, let's just lighten up and show our arses factoryjoe we could have opml for our arses winsk factoryjoe - bit of an ass fetish? -> nikolajn has joined lesblogs jibot nikolajn is in Denmark, Copenhagen and currently attending Supernova 10:27 -> doransky has joined lesblogs factoryjoe winsk: not particularly, more of an atom fella myself KevinMarks OPML? I trod in some once -> mygdal has joined lesblogs jibot mygdal is in Copenhagen, Denmark KevinMarks perfectpath I love the outline of my arse being processed 10:28 factoryjoe KevinMarks: isn't that a legacy format? JaanusSkype feeds that generate sites that generate feeds that generate content? WHAT? cfd RSS 2.0 -> Salim has joined lesblogs cfd logical. KevinMarks that's what's technically known as spamblogs, JaanusSkype perfectpath arse hijacking now it's getting weird 10:29 factoryjoe authentication for my arse feeds <- Salim has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -> Bjoern_Site9 has joined lesblogs wavestorm end user would just not understand what security means... 10:30 -> Salim has joined lesblogs weemac Make it easier then! factoryjoe yeah, passwords in your opml file == bad <- nikolajn has disconnected (Client Quit) -> surfnode has joined lesblogs weemac Most joe blogs - the rest of the tail - don't have a clue how RSS works wavestorm weemac: got to educate the world first... 10:31 cfd or even what is RSS... weemac Can you help us out? weemac I can only teach 30 at a time! KevinMarks RSS is a way for your computer to read blogs for you, so you don't have to 10:32 pforret it's not DNS hijacking KevinMarks it's like an Electric Monk Salim agree... wavestorm weemac: use a blog -> o4media_ has joined lesblogs JaanusSkype ahh spamblogs.. http://www.blogmaverick.com/entry/1234000717063627/ "splog" is a cool 2.0 style name tara kevinmarks: Electric monk...that's good. factoryjoe hmm 10:33 factoryjoe why do we have to educate ppl about rss? -> Dries_ has joined lesblogs Dries_ hello tara should be seamless factoryjoe shouldn't the behavior be represented in the design of tools maartens Hello Dries tara ya Dries_ tara: oops <- i-sams has disconnected (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) tara hey dries factoryjoe fyi, Dries_, you may end up projected in front of the conference in here Dries_ maartens, = Maarten Schenk? 10:34 tara say something naughty maartens Dries = Dries Buytaert? Dries_ maartens, yeah factoryjoe oh boy, we've got a love connection! maartens is Maarten Schenk KevinMarks ?learn Dries_ is Dries Buytaert jibot Dries_ is Dries Buytaert 10:35 Dries_ I have been "botted". maartens factoryjoe Dries_: we're talking about RSS (aka arse) factoryjoe Dries_: it's called "jiknighted" factoryjoe i'd rather have subscribers to my brain -> saerdna_ has joined lesblogs tara scaaaary KevinMarks I think the Queen needs to knight you Dries_ factoryjoe, so what can I do for you? 10:36 Dries_ maartens, maybe we should try to meet up one day? factoryjoe Dries_: thought you might like to join the conference remotely tara Henrietta! <- saerdna_ has left lesblogs 10:37 Dries_ factoryjoe, sure am tara riya schwag factoryjoe KevinMarks: did you ever get audio? KevinMarks nope marccanter hey Dries! Dries_ if I knew about the conference, I would have attended, I think <- oliverwagner has disconnected Dries_ it someone went under my radar factoryjoe KevinMarks: btw, you seem to get into conferences for free via IRC more than anyone other muthaeffer I know factoryjoe Dries_: yeah, it happens Dries_ marccanter, hey dude -- feeling sleepy lately? KevinMarks can anyone there operate ichat? -> adecarvalho has joined lesblogs tara riya schwag! 10:38 dotBen yeah, that's a point. RSS = content, lite Dries_ marccanter, too bad you couldn't make it to Amsterdam last month dotBen (sans ads) marccanter this RSS panel is totally boring marccanter I can;t believe NONED of them have mentioneed micro-c ontent dotBen it is, I want to hear about BEYOND RSS factoryjoe adblock for rss is coming KevinMarks that fop hammersly owes me a live feed in return for supernova Lanfeust21 www.frappr.com/lesblogs register your blog on the map marccanter I will have to bring that up - if they open the panel up dotBen what about syndicatin other content, etc marccanter but right now factoryjoe flock consumes rss and ouputs microformatted xhtml marccanter it's a jack-off session dotBen I could bring it up Marc 10:39 marccanter please do dotBen after all, I am more than just a foul-mouthed, uncoothed gutter snipe dotBen honest -> vowe has joined lesblogs factoryjoe dotBen: i'm not so sure about that factoryjoe marccanter I am KevinMarks thats only after a couple fo bottles of stormhoek tara guttermouths factoryjoe (i can say that because i'm a seat away from you) dotBen yeah, not quite punch reach 10:40 factoryjoe right factoryjoe there would be collateral damage tara ads schmads KevinMarks we're all of us in the gutter, but some are looking at the stars factoryjoe omg tara uh? Dries_ marccanter, btw, congrats with the funding factoryjoe Dries_: which funding? jemstone all the opportunties seem to be about helping businesses sell, market and research...how about empowering users, citizens with knowledge, information and er, bridging social capital dotBen go Marc factoryjoe wait, can someone rephrase the question? -> EZToms has joined lesblogs Ewan_bed changes nick to Ewan_ jibot Ewan_ is the guy sitting next to me & Scottish, & has a tame(ish) Crow. & definitely scottish & is now back & living in Edinburgh & lucky enough to be married to Vikki & blogs at http://www.ewanspence.com/ & still Scottish Salim they've all forgotten that RSS is just a wrapper for text.... 10:41 tara Got Marc? cfd jemstone: socialist! tara It's all about monetizing sticky eyeballs factoryjoe yeah, we ought get a little meta on this "rss" thing peterkaminski salim, a wrapper for text the way SMTP is KevinMarks RSS is a hnady way to pass around chunks of HTML factoryjoe KevinMarks++ Lanfeust21 how do you manage content shared trough creattive common when aggregated , KevinMarks and HTML can have microformats in Salim pk - exactly! tara chunky HTML tara LOL marccanter maybe I;'ll ask my questions here factoryjoe KevinMarks: what mfs are there for licensing? tara cool 10:42 marccanter and then everyone else can see it - FIRST KevinMarks rel=license jemstone this is the most powerful technology ever invented we're talking about selling more beans for tesco KevinMarks as emitted by cc themselves crosswick hear hear <- Salim has disconnected (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) dotBen yup cfd "most powerful technology"? KevinMarks http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license dotBen it's about going behond RSS factoryjoe KevinMarks: our point is being voiced dotBen and thus beyond just "newsy type content" 10:43 factoryjoe "the web is made up of structured data and unstructured data" marccanter here here Salim perfectpath yeah Salim++ dotBen point is, it's all in formats that suite the content provider, not the end user dotBen suit* sorry factoryjoe dotBen: what formats suit the users? -> _JY_ has joined lesblogs 10:44 peterkaminski elizabeth asked salim to explain more about structured content, for the folks who don't know dotBen structured formats -> kel has joined lesblogs dotBen content providers want to provide you with as flat/unstructured as possible dotBen it costs them less, creates upsell, etc -> m-c_ has joined lesblogs factoryjoe dotBen: also mitigates the "risk" of remixing _JY_ DLA anyone ? dotBen yup dotBen that too factoryjoe or "mashing up" the web as they say 10:45 peterkaminski Google Base: love it or hate it? KevinMarks anyone who thinks of himself as a content provider is already dead tara my data is my data factoryjoe dotBen: where's the bbc w/ microformats? dotBen lol dotBen we're getting there factoryjoe xhtml == xml dotBen we're certainly trying to do our best to release structured APIs marccanter I believe the Beeb will support the various m-c formats factoryjoe peterkaminski: hated it factoryjoe (that was in that annoying voice) peterkaminski <- o4media has disconnected (Connection reset by peer) m-c_ m-c format? 10:46 factoryjoe peterkaminski: google base missed the boat KevinMarks Base is a structure roach motel factoryjoe KevinMarks++ peterkaminski lol factoryjoe ugh factoryjoe eff proprietary extensions peterkaminski so i wonder if they'll evolve it? dotBen I can be civil in the world of standards -> Salim has joined lesblogs peterkaminski or if it'll take over the world anyway 10:47 factoryjoe peterkaminski: it's a dark day for the web when base takes over -> Suw has joined lesblogs factoryjoe heya suw mcabiling hiya suw perfectpath hey suw factoryjoe structuredblogging.org gets a plug dotBen all their base belongs to them <- Dries_ has disconnected ("Leaving") Suw hallo tara suw! perfectpath all the boys say HEY SUW Suw good morning all, sorry for my tardiness tara and girl Suw girl++ factoryjoe yeah, perfectpath, get it right 10:48 perfectpath sorry tara tara factoryjoe raping the blogosphere-- dotBen marc canter - preventing the rape of the blogosphere Suw perfectpath: you *can* tell the difference, can't you? tara various flavours tara mmmmm factoryjoe "you heard it here first" Salim finally... some fun... -> Dries_ has joined lesblogs Suw pity me. I am moderating marc later... perfectpath yup, i just can't read and type at the same time quickly enough factoryjoe suw: not in irc jemstone the guardian call it web feed too factoryjoe hmm factoryjoe "web feed" factoryjoe "live favorite" m-c_ rss, live bookmaring, signet évolutif......... perfectpath omg my arse is going to get raped factoryjoe "livemark" Suw factoryjoe: you need to be more psychic 10:49 JaanusSkype the web is hungry.. feed it kel livetalk marccanter that's what MS is gonna cal it rvr Translating "feed" is a problem for european languages m-c_ live bookmarking i meant marccanter fed shall have fed marccanter to eat the content tara eat your content tara that's good factoryjoe wait, what's gunna split? m-c_ the average people wont get what web feed means.. oh well factoryjoe i missed that antoin 'le feed' maartens Le Big Feed tara Le grand feed antoin les grands feeds 10:50 Ton_Zijlstra feed in dutch might become "voedingslijn". I think we'll just stick with feed in that case marccanter Le doomed Feed rvr In Spanish I use "fuente" (source) m-c_ signets évolutif is kinda clear Salim in french, it's 'fid' rvr or just sindicación m-c_ so is live bookmark --- organic way to subscribe to content J_Clavier Salim: It is fil znarf yeah fil Suw in welsh it's ffîd marccanter arnaud: is that you - mosuier Leene? maartens (nieuws)lijn in Dutch? Ton_Zijlstra Suw: only FIVE letters? 10:51 factoryjoe SafariFeed just didn't sound right Suw four Suw well, three, really KevinMarks in english it's 'arse' Suw ff countst as one Ton_Zijlstra Maartens: voedingslijn, makes me think of Intensive Care units perfectpath suw: as in "can I ffid my sheep here?" maartens LevensLijn Salim fil is pure french... feed in english is 'fid' in french (mustn't forget the accent...) Suw perfectpath: you leave my sheep alone mcabiling francois : splice feeds with feedburner Ton_Zijlstra maartens: webbron? bronlijn? cfd direct brain feed... 10:52 Dries_ I can only hope that Dutch people stick with the English version cfd dbf perfectpath no I was talking about my sheep - my sheep's arse Suw will you blog it? J_Clavier Salim: Sorry I did not get that you were moking the frogs Ton_Zijlstra Dries: vied? Dries_ Ton_Zijlstra: fiet? crosswick fiets! <- antoin has disconnected ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 10:53 -> antoin has joined lesblogs KevinMarks in italy it's fiat Ton_Zijlstra fiets! that's it! Fiets, no worries about web traffic jams, just cruise through it all on you fiets! perfectpath OK so it's about legs - at one end is my rss and the other end is my fiets crosswick exactly. great metaphor marccanter in Italy - they at least know how to eat Salim ho yes... toujours... (and the hinglish, and the uhmuricns and the ispansh)... not to mention the dang cnucks factoryjoe those dang cnucks maartens iSpansh? Is that a new Apple product? crosswick webfiets Ton_Zijlstra reading your feeds then becomes fietsen, and we Dutch all know how to do that! 10:54 Ton_Zijlstra Lektora, my favourite webfiets mcabiling we need PidgeonRank for feeds Dries_ lol - for the English speaking people, the Dutch 'fiets' (sounds as 'feed'), translates to 'bike' perfectpath i don't have webfiets it's just the way I walk pforret collaborative filtering could also give weight to author, even if it's a new piece -> Frank_M has joined lesblogs factoryjoe web bikes! Suw legs? Frank_M boooiiinnnngggg cfd the lektora huy is now working for MS -> schickr has joined lesblogs cfd on IE 7 Web feed. perfectpath put them away suw Dries_ factoryjoe: exactly -- you "bike" the web factoryjoe cfd: yup factoryjoe Dries_: nice Frank_M interestind discussion on the panel wavestorm pforret are there working collaborative filtering models ? Suw perfectpath: sorry. i'll try to keep them hidden as much as possible, but that may be tricky today 10:55 pforret digg pforret technorati perfectpath uh oh cfd guy factoryjoe dotBen++ jemstone dotben yay schickr you guys are cracking me up! Ton_Zijlstra remix your fiets! wavestorm those are kind of limitated ... tara go DotBen! dotBen and backstage Frank_M hey Ton dotBen lol factoryjoe digg p0wns /. Frank_M How are things in NL? perfectpath suw: where are you in the room Ton_Zijlstra Hi Frank! Alles goe? wavestorm it highly ddepends on the author taggign accurately its information Frank_M alles wel! wavestorm which means basically structuring the information Suw on the far right, near the middle. Suw in red crosswick the word Fiets is definitely something that should be injected into the collective wordlwide consciousness 10:56 -> Chico has joined lesblogs Ton_Zijlstra wavestorm: isn;t tagging more about the readers tagging, than the author tagging? tara but trust a machine to pick and choose? tara I don't know Dries_ dotBen = Ben Hammersley ? wavestorm Ton_Zijlstra would say both... rvr NectaRSS, an intelligente aggregator for .NET: http://www.webdosbeta.net/2005/ponencia-nectarss.pdf KevinMarks ?whois dotBen jibot dotBen is Ben Metcalfe and blogging at http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ marccanter I trust YOU Tara dotBen http://backstage.bbc.co.uk Dries_ KevinMarks: tnx wavestorm is the newsgateor reader rating really used ? Salim tagging is just adding metadata to text.... with different ramifications if the author vs the reader does it... Suw is hammersley here yet? tara lol .... you are in trouble then... KevinMarks not online Suw oh yes, so he is Suw stood behind me cfd dotben has an RSS feed also. _JY_ rvr : .NET, you got a vaio.. WTF ?! 10:57 marccanter Tara: my shirt is brighter than your outfit today! wavestorm power out +++ (gotta find a charger ) tara cfd: he has an arse feed, duh Suw see, having the IRC projected up on a screen is so useful. <- wavestorm has disconnected rvr _JY_: I havent used it cfd sorry!:) factoryjoe shadows.com gets a mention tara marccanter: yes, you have me beat...aaaargh Ton_Zijlstra wavestorm: when I tag my own stuff I tag is a reader of my own stuff usually, not so others can find it more easily e.g. just an observation factoryjoe coming to flock by year's end perfectpath yeah don't inject anything in my arse Suw flock++ rvr _JY_: It is based on a university tesis tara flock rocks marccanter unless it's welllubricated factoryjoe :#D 10:58 _JY_ Marc : when do you sing? rvr Just a proff of concept KevinMarks Oi, hammersley, you owe me an ichat feed since supernova marccanter during our panel marccanter this afternoon factoryjoe _JY_: once he gets lubed Frank_M Marc: Opera? marccanter name that tune? factoryjoe Frank_M: bien sur marccanter Cole Porter? factoryjoe megadeath tara totally cole porter marccanter Gilbert & Sullivan? pforret collaborative filtering + bayesian filtering: if they can push spam down, they can push interesting stuff up <- jyri has disconnected Ton_Zijlstra marccanter: all kinds of micro aria's probably? tara Always true to you in my fashion -> FlyOnTheWall has joined lesblogs Frank_M The spamsong? marccanter "All through the night" - I did last night during an interview 10:59 Suw i think that three minutes of silence would be a great song for Marc to sing during our panel Suw repeatedly Ton_Zijlstra Ton_Zijlstra this is a worried moderator speaking, right Suw? factoryjoe attentiontrust.org and root.net gets action Suw worried? nah. I am going to be moderating with a baseball bat Ton_Zijlstra you going clubbing? Suw either Marc or Hugh talk for more than 30 seconds in one go, I'll take a swing at them. factoryjoe where's wavestorm? 11:00 Suw ha ha ha Frank_M remembers to charge batteries for taping that panel... KevinMarks just use a bottle, hugh'll have one <- m-c has disconnected (Connection timed out) <- winsk has disconnected tara don't disappoint us now. We want action tara suw mcabiling wavestorm 3rd row from top peterkaminski it was cool of Scott to bring up attentiontrust 11:01 Suw that's a point. Or the mic stands - they look hefty mcabiling in wight mcabiling white perfectpath so suw, you're wearing red, have to show your legs and you're planning on swinging this afternoon Salim food... use food... Suw Isle of Wight? KevinMarks you out looking for action again tara? I thought you were playing down that image perfectpath a picture is emerging tara LOL factoryjoe mcabiling: could wavestorm provide KevinMarks an ichat feed? Suw sounds like lloyd is though, km mcabiling my brain is still waking up factoryjoe (not the arse kind) <- EZToms has disconnected (Connection timed out) tara kevinmarks: panel action .... sheesh <- JSG has disconnected tara always being quoted out of context tara Suw oh, feeble excuse tara 11:02 perfectpath factoryjoe yeah, c'mon, make an issue why doncha mcabiling factoryjoe : take that up with wavestorm directly factoryjoe ok, i'll physically push the request factoryjoe <- loiclemeur has disconnected KevinMarks c'mon it's only a few kilobits Suw ok... break perfectpath au revoir mes amis tara break! mcabiling factoryjoe, (wavestorm:) use the Blog-1 network, that should not harm bandwidth... <- neilmcintosh has disconnected <- Suw has disconnected perfectpath great break music 11:03 JaanusSkype thumbs up JaanusSkype and wake up 11:04 Disconnected from chat 11:21 Joining chat room... Started talking in lesblogs on teisipäev 06.12.2005 11:21:28 Room topic is: Offi